[Submission] Keeper of Tradition (Camarilla reward for playing Traditions)
12 Dec 2014 09:04 #68133
by Ankha
The real question is: "Would it unbalance the game?" I think not.
Replied by Ankha on topic Re: [Submission] Keeper of Tradition (Camarilla reward for playing Traditions)
It makes different decks. Are they better or worse? I don't know.
No, because they'll have to add some traditions that weren't there in the first place. And there was a good reason if they weren't there in the first place: the deck was better without them... that's where you hope that adding some copies of Keeper of Tradition is worth the effort.The basic thing is: Camarilla Prince decks can already be very strong. If this is worth playing, it would make them stronger.
Including a smattering of borderline cards in order to get permanent +2 bleed and +2 votes on (potentially) more than one vampire is a pretty sizeable pay off. If benefit > cost, the deck gets better. Legendary Vampire sees play in TWDA entries and that has a significant cost (2 pool), and requires a master card slot, and has a very limited window of play, and has a burn clause (not the easiest to burn because it's a vote, but the possibility is there), and is unique - and it's still a very good card, in the right deck. Including a couple of Fourth Tradition compares extremely favourably to that.
On the other hand, if the card makes decks worse, don't print it.
The real question is: "Would it unbalance the game?" I think not.
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12 Dec 2014 09:22 #68136
by Ankha
But it could unique indeed, or limited to 1 per vampire. I's hard to tell without playtest.
Replied by Ankha on topic Re: [Submission] Keeper of Tradition (Camarilla reward for playing Traditions)
It doens't work like this, superior Govern in an Eurobrujah deck is important.I don't think the cost would weaken significantly a prince deck. Replace govern by tradition and get +2 permanent bleed ? Knock yourself out.
But it could unique indeed, or limited to 1 per vampire. I's hard to tell without playtest.
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17 Jan 2015 03:22 #68695
by direwolf
Independent Futurist. Contrarian (titled, X votes where X is the number of votes as the acting minion.) Target Vitals is always the better combat card.
Replied by direwolf on topic Re: [Submission] Keeper of Tradition (Camarilla reward for playing Traditions)
Keeping track of which vampire played which card in your ash heap should NEVER be a game mechanic.
If you want a card like that (I do not condone or condemn the need for such a card
) I would try something like:
Rules Lawyer
Master. Archetype.
Put this card on a titles Camarilla vampire. At the end of a turn in which this vampire plays a Tradition card, remove the card from the game and add a counter to this card. This vampire may burn X counters for X bleed or votes. A vampire may have only one archetype.
If you want a card like that (I do not condone or condemn the need for such a card
) I would try something like:Rules Lawyer
Master. Archetype.
Put this card on a titles Camarilla vampire. At the end of a turn in which this vampire plays a Tradition card, remove the card from the game and add a counter to this card. This vampire may burn X counters for X bleed or votes. A vampire may have only one archetype.
Independent Futurist. Contrarian (titled, X votes where X is the number of votes as the acting minion.) Target Vitals is always the better combat card.
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