compress [Submission] Grave whisperings (Thanatosis/Necromancy)

08 Jan 2015 07:26 - 08 Jan 2015 07:27 #68537 by chrisn101
Have had the benefit of a night's reflection about this card: originally I thought it would be more benefits-of-gathering-intel-to-ambush (as Samedi childer are chosen for mental/physical traits), but as Jamesatzephyr has pointed out, the fact that Samedi have Obfuscate made much more sense for this type of card: in a LARP scenario I guess it's the equivalent of using "Fade from the Mind's Eye" to hit another character in a surprise attack. Surprisingly, Obfuscate VTES cards don't seem to represent that idea (which I guess mechanically is more 'set range'). Maybe it should be more along the lines of an anti-"Cold Aura"?

Cold Aura
[1 Blood]
:nec: Only usable before range is determined. Set the range for this round to long.
:NEC: As above, with an optional press, only usable to end combat.

Card idea v4
[1 Blood seems to be standard]
:obf: :thn: Only usable before range is determined. Set the range for this round to close.
:OBF: :thn: As above, with an optional press.
:OBF: :THN: As above, and once this combat, this vampire can reduce the cost to play a combat card by 1 blood. [Does this make sense any more though?]
Last edit: 08 Jan 2015 07:27 by chrisn101.

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08 Jan 2015 21:33 #68553 by jamesatzephyr

I guess it's the equivalent of using "Fade from the Mind's Eye" to hit another character in a surprise attack. Surprisingly, Obfuscate VTES cards don't seem to represent that idea (which I guess mechanically is more 'set range'). Maybe it should be more along the lines of an anti-"Cold Aura"?


Behind You! and Hidden Lurker are sort of the common or garden ambush effects. Behind You! is very playable, if you're doing combat with an Obfuscate-y clan (e.g. Nosferatu). Hidden Lurker isn't unplayable, though you can only really use it sparingly - people have to block you before you can play it.

Samedi can kinda set range with Olid Loa , but only to long range. Potentially interesting option if you were using, say, guns, but not a super-compelling deck.

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09 Jan 2015 06:56 #68556 by chrisn101
True, true. I like the concept of Olid Loa. Quite a funny idea that there is a disgusting smell that causes the opposing minion to keep its distance and end combat as soon as possible, but its never found its way into a deck. It seems to be another "retreat" type card (hoping that the opposing minion doesn't have ranged damage) though, and Thanatosis strikes are close range.

(Hmmm. That said, wonder if a Mark V and Olid Loa with Potence backup is a viable deck... one for the deck clinic at the weekend.)

Just realised the alternative card text suggestion would need to say "Only usable when the acting minion has entered combat with a minion as a (D) action" (Rush/Haven Uncovered, Dirty Contract) for the background explanation to still make sense.

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