[Submission] Samedi Ally - Ghouled Gunrunner
28 Jan 2015 07:42 #68908
by chrisn101
[Submission] Samedi Ally - Ghouled Gunrunner was created by chrisn101
Ghouled gunrunner
Unique Ally
Samedi
Costs 2 [pool/blood?].
Ghoul with [2/3?] life. 1 strength. 0 bleed. +1 stealth
Once per combat may strike for 1R.
This ally may take an action to either move 1 blood from the blood bank to a ready vampire you control, or allow you to search your library for a weapon and move it to your hand. Shuffle and discard afterwards.
Flavour text
"Samedi often involve themselves with the superstitious immigrant criminal elements"
Art notes
A hooded figure with a bag jumps over a security gate at the edge of a forest.
World of Darkness reference
As per quote.
How does this card address a compelling game need?
Samedi resources aren't commented on in the available literature, but they Haven in or near sewers, graveyards and 'slum' areas. This suggested card is more in keeping with the Clan than, say, playing Vast Wealth, and the additional hunt action makes it's more generally versatile ally than cards like the Brujah's "Al's Army Apparatus" or "Arms Dealer". Why 1R? as a gun runner, presumably has access to a gun. Why hunt ability? Because guns are not the only thing they can traffick in or get their hands on. Ghoul because it's the easiest for a Samedi to do since they don't have Dominate/Presence (which also means the ally has slightly more life than usual, as opposed to Potence/Fortitude).
Obviously this would enhance the ability/likelihood of getting a gun to Jack Dawson . My experiences of an all-out Samedi Gun deck haven't been brilliant though, but a well-equipped Jack can be a useful deterrent to your predator in any other Samedi deck type.
As always, comments and suggestions welcome
Unique Ally
Samedi
Costs 2 [pool/blood?].
Ghoul with [2/3?] life. 1 strength. 0 bleed. +1 stealth
Once per combat may strike for 1R.
This ally may take an action to either move 1 blood from the blood bank to a ready vampire you control, or allow you to search your library for a weapon and move it to your hand. Shuffle and discard afterwards.
Flavour text
"Samedi often involve themselves with the superstitious immigrant criminal elements"
Art notes
A hooded figure with a bag jumps over a security gate at the edge of a forest.
World of Darkness reference
As per quote.
How does this card address a compelling game need?
Samedi resources aren't commented on in the available literature, but they Haven in or near sewers, graveyards and 'slum' areas. This suggested card is more in keeping with the Clan than, say, playing Vast Wealth, and the additional hunt action makes it's more generally versatile ally than cards like the Brujah's "Al's Army Apparatus" or "Arms Dealer". Why 1R? as a gun runner, presumably has access to a gun. Why hunt ability? Because guns are not the only thing they can traffick in or get their hands on. Ghoul because it's the easiest for a Samedi to do since they don't have Dominate/Presence (which also means the ally has slightly more life than usual, as opposed to Potence/Fortitude).
Obviously this would enhance the ability/likelihood of getting a gun to Jack Dawson . My experiences of an all-out Samedi Gun deck haven't been brilliant though, but a well-equipped Jack can be a useful deterrent to your predator in any other Samedi deck type.
As always, comments and suggestions welcome

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28 Jan 2015 10:25 #68912
by Juggernaut1981




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Replied by Juggernaut1981 on topic Re: [Submission] Samedi Ally - Ghouled Gunrunner
I find the thing is probably worse than Arms Dealer.
If its Unique, I'd probably want it to put the weapon onto the other minion.
Haitian Gunrunner
Ally
Samedi
1 blood
Ghoul. 2 life, 1 strength, 0 bleed.
Haitian Gunrunner may Strike: 1R. When Haitian Gunrunner equips with a weapon from your hand you may transfer it to a Samedi you control instead of putting it on this minion. This minion may take a +1 stealth action to give 1 blood to a vampire you control.
If its Unique, I'd probably want it to put the weapon onto the other minion.
Haitian Gunrunner
Ally
Samedi
1 blood
Ghoul. 2 life, 1 strength, 0 bleed.
Haitian Gunrunner may Strike: 1R. When Haitian Gunrunner equips with a weapon from your hand you may transfer it to a Samedi you control instead of putting it on this minion. This minion may take a +1 stealth action to give 1 blood to a vampire you control.





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28 Jan 2015 22:00 #68918
by chrisn101
Replied by chrisn101 on topic Re: [Submission] Samedi Ally - Ghouled Gunrunner
Thanks Juggernaut1981,
Having had time to have a proper look at ghouls in Secret Library, I see most aren't unique, so no worries about that then. Procurer and Arms Dealer aren't, for example, and I'd misremembered the latter as being unique.
I'm intrigued by your suggestion that the Gunrunner equips a weapon from your hand and you then have the opportunity to move it to a Vampire, rather than to find a weapon in your library and move it to your hand however, although please correct me if I have misunderstood. Most Samedi have some level of Obfuscate and (obviously) Thanatosis, so should have access to +1 stealth for the equip, +2 from Obfuscate, and +2 stealth from Under My Skin , or alternatively use Disguised Weapon in combat. A Samedi attempting to equip isn't therefore usually an issue: it's getting the equipment in hand when you don't have any.
Having had time to have a proper look at ghouls in Secret Library, I see most aren't unique, so no worries about that then. Procurer and Arms Dealer aren't, for example, and I'd misremembered the latter as being unique.
I'm intrigued by your suggestion that the Gunrunner equips a weapon from your hand and you then have the opportunity to move it to a Vampire, rather than to find a weapon in your library and move it to your hand however, although please correct me if I have misunderstood. Most Samedi have some level of Obfuscate and (obviously) Thanatosis, so should have access to +1 stealth for the equip, +2 from Obfuscate, and +2 stealth from Under My Skin , or alternatively use Disguised Weapon in combat. A Samedi attempting to equip isn't therefore usually an issue: it's getting the equipment in hand when you don't have any.
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29 Jan 2015 05:06 #68922
by direwolf
Independent Futurist. Contrarian (titled, X votes where X is the number of votes as the acting minion.) Target Vitals is always the better combat card.
Replied by direwolf on topic Re: [Submission] Samedi Ally - Ghouled Gunrunner
Instead of once per combat 1R, I would give the ghoul 0 strength and deals 1R as a strike (or as Juggernaut suggested, go with both.)
In your line including strength and health, it also states +1 stealth. Are you suggesting that this ally has +1 stealth on all actions?
If so, I recommend one of two things:
a) the built in action does not declare +1 stealth
OR
b) the ally does not have +1 stealth on all actions, and has +2 stealth on it's text action(s)
And, as per Juggernaut's text, the two actions should be separate actions. When text says an action can do A or B, that is ONE action, and not repeatable for both effects, but if they are two different actions, then the ally could perform both if untapped.
In your line including strength and health, it also states +1 stealth. Are you suggesting that this ally has +1 stealth on all actions?
If so, I recommend one of two things:
a) the built in action does not declare +1 stealth
OR
b) the ally does not have +1 stealth on all actions, and has +2 stealth on it's text action(s)
And, as per Juggernaut's text, the two actions should be separate actions. When text says an action can do A or B, that is ONE action, and not repeatable for both effects, but if they are two different actions, then the ally could perform both if untapped.




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29 Jan 2015 07:12 #68923
by chrisn101
Replied by chrisn101 on topic Re: [Submission] Samedi Ally - Ghouled Gunrunner
OK, rolling feedback into one...
Haitian gunrunner
Ally

1
, Ghoul, 0 strength. 0 bleed. May strike for 1R.
Once per turn, this ally may either take a +1 stealth action to move 1 blood from the blood bank to a ready vampire you control, or a +1 stealth action to search your library for a weapon and move it to your hand. Shuffle and discard afterwards.
Haitian gunrunner


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Once per turn, this ally may either take a +1 stealth action to move 1 blood from the blood bank to a ready vampire you control, or a +1 stealth action to search your library for a weapon and move it to your hand. Shuffle and discard afterwards.
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29 Jan 2015 08:25 #68926
by alek
Replied by alek on topic Re: [Submission] Samedi Ally - Ghouled Gunrunner
not bad
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