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04 Aug 2011 07:55 - 04 Aug 2011 08:28 #7319
by LunaSlave
There was another thread about killing Ashur Tablets, which I don't like so much. I don't think *hosing* Ashur Tablets is is the right idea. It's a good card, and should remain a good card. It adds something nice to the game. The only real problem that I see with it is availability, not power level, and I think the Liquidation thing is fine, although it is strong.
I think the way to go is just accepting that it's part of the game, and coming up with cool new interactions for it, rather than just punishing decks that do play it.
What about a vampire that does something neat with Ashur Tablets, and makes it a little more difficult for others to play them as well?
a very quick and random idea just off the top of my head.
Agaitas, the Scholar of Antiquities
Harbingers of Skulls

Advanced. Sabbat. Whenever another Methuselah plays Ashur Tablets, place the top two cards of their library face up in front of you. They are considered to be in your hand, to be played or discarded as normal.
Once per turn, if you play a Master card owned by another Methuselah, gain an additional master phase action.
Group 2
Edit: changed the merged text from "If you play an Ashur Tablets card owned by another Methuselah, gain an additional master phase action." to the above, so it actually does something more with the base vampire without Ashur Tablets having to be at the table.
I think the way to go is just accepting that it's part of the game, and coming up with cool new interactions for it, rather than just punishing decks that do play it.
What about a vampire that does something neat with Ashur Tablets, and makes it a little more difficult for others to play them as well?
a very quick and random idea just off the top of my head.

Agaitas, the Scholar of Antiquities


Harbingers of Skulls




Advanced. Sabbat. Whenever another Methuselah plays Ashur Tablets, place the top two cards of their library face up in front of you. They are considered to be in your hand, to be played or discarded as normal.

Group 2
Edit: changed the merged text from "If you play an Ashur Tablets card owned by another Methuselah, gain an additional master phase action." to the above, so it actually does something more with the base vampire without Ashur Tablets having to be at the table.
Last edit: 04 Aug 2011 08:28 by LunaSlave.
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05 Aug 2011 01:13 #7360
by Adonai
Since they are 'considered to be in your hand', do they count against your hand-size? Do you have to discard down?
Replied by Adonai on topic Re: Ashur Tablets interaction (Agaitas, the Scholar of Antiquities ADVANCED!)
Whenever another Methuselah plays Ashur Tablets, place the top two cards of their library face up in front of you. They are considered to be in your hand, to be played or discarded as normal.
Since they are 'considered to be in your hand', do they count against your hand-size? Do you have to discard down?
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05 Aug 2011 04:18 #7365
by LunaSlave
Replied by LunaSlave on topic Re: Ashur Tablets interaction (Agaitas, the Scholar of Antiquities ADVANCED!)
I was thinking yes, and for that reason I thought I should actually add a 'you may' clause for the trigger when someone plays an Ashur Tablets.
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05 Aug 2011 13:44 #7403
by Adonai
Replied by Adonai on topic Re: Ashur Tablets interaction (Agaitas, the Scholar of Antiquities ADVANCED!)
Well, still draw them, but if they aren't more beneficial than what is in your hand, discard them.
You'll want more explicit text indicating that the drawn cards count against your hand size.
You'll want more explicit text indicating that the drawn cards count against your hand size.
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05 Aug 2011 18:29 #7413
by LunaSlave
Replied by LunaSlave on topic Re: Ashur Tablets interaction (Agaitas, the Scholar of Antiquities ADVANCED!)
True. I actually borrowed the wording from regular base Agaitas...shouldn't it be more clear too? 
Curious to see what you, or others think of the actual card idea.

Curious to see what you, or others think of the actual card idea.
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05 Aug 2011 23:06 #7429
by salem
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Replied by salem on topic Re: Ashur Tablets interaction (Agaitas, the Scholar of Antiquities ADVANCED!)
"owned" should be "controlled", as well.
As a side effect he might go well in some sort of crazy contestion deck!
As a side effect he might go well in some sort of crazy contestion deck!
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