file game of hide and seek

14 Dec 2016 08:06 #79575 by snegiem
Game of hide and seek
action modifier/reaction
usable only by a sabbat vampire. Only one game of hide and seek can be played per action.
the acting vampire if sabbat can spend 1 blood this action to get +1 stealth even if you play this card as a reaction card.
Each sabbat vampires can spend 1 blood once this action to get +1 intercept (even if this card is played as an action modifier).

Source: sabbat books (1st and second edition) in the sabbat games and rites.

interest: crosstable interaction.... and giving the sabbat a toolbox card : not as strong as second trad for instance but more flexible (no need for titled vampires, ... )

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04 Jan 2017 07:44 #79985 by direwolf
Replied by direwolf on topic game of hide and seek
This is pretty much Stealth Ritus.

I get it. You want a sabbat only cross-table shenanigans card. The wording is funky though.

Hide and Seek
:modifier: :reaction:
Requires a Sabbat vampire. Only usable by a vampire other than the acting vampire. Any Sabbat vampire may burn a blood to give the acting vampire +1 stealth or a blocking vampire +1 intercept. Only one Hide and Seek may be played each action.

I feel like this cleans it up a little. How does it work? Is it all you hoped it would be?

:tore: :pre: :tem: :aus: Independent Futurist. Contrarian (titled, X votes where X is the number of votes as the acting minion.) Target Vitals is always the better combat card.

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07 Jan 2017 15:21 - 07 Jan 2017 16:04 #80039 by snegiem
Replied by snegiem on topic game of hide and seek
You learned me a new english word: "shenanigan"... thanks : )

I would like to sum up the effects or strategies around stealth ritus, my version and yours (only in comparison to each other):

Stealth ritus:
Advantage: may secure (a little) a hunting vampire.
drawbacks: only usable by an acting player.
Need of a second ready sabbat vampire with at least a blood.
must be announced when the action is announced (not usable for example in escalating a reaction card)

In comparison, it s true that my version or yours seem a little more powerful:

Your version:
As stealth ritus it requires a sabbat vampire but contrary to it, it is not requested to be the acting methuselah. I think your version may need to have written a "once this action" otherwise you spend a blood to give bonus (ex +1 stealth) and then a second blood to give a second +1stealth and so it would allow even one sabbat vampire to give another sabbat vampire +x stealth or +x intercept for x blood...
Even if you would put "once this action" it would allow kind of combined stealth gain like i have 5 pander of cap 1, i need stealth for my legacy of pander so one makes the action and the other 4 spend a blood to give +4 to the acting minion... my wording makes a more weak card in comparison as in this example the pander could get only +1 stealth bonus... (same for intercept as with my version a sabbat can gain max +1 intercept with this card instead of +x)...

One point aside these, both version (yours and mine) allows to cycle, you can play it as a reaction card during any player action... even if there is no sabbat vampire acting or attempting to block yet.. so .
Last edit: 07 Jan 2017 16:04 by snegiem.

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