Helmi, the Wedding Planner: tools for Toreador
08 Nov 2022 13:42 - 08 Nov 2022 13:42 #106746
by Kraus
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Helmi, the Wedding Planner: tools for Toreador was created by Kraus
Helmi, the Wedding Planner
Unique Mortal with 1 Life, 0 Strength, 1 Bleed
Requires Toreador
Cards that require Toreador cost you 1 less pool
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"I have a diverse clientele with diverse needs - a professional caters to every urge and knows not to ask questions. And I'm the best."
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Catered to boost the sole in-clan identity of Toreador: Grand Ball and Aching Beauty, as well as give them some flavor with tying them into the mortal realm better.
Compare the design space to Saatet-ta as an overall good ally to support the fundamentals of the clan.
Unique Mortal with 1 Life, 0 Strength, 1 Bleed
Requires Toreador

Cards that require Toreador cost you 1 less pool

"I have a diverse clientele with diverse needs - a professional caters to every urge and knows not to ask questions. And I'm the best."
---
Catered to boost the sole in-clan identity of Toreador: Grand Ball and Aching Beauty, as well as give them some flavor with tying them into the mortal realm better.
Compare the design space to Saatet-ta as an overall good ally to support the fundamentals of the clan.
"Oh, to the Hades with the manners! He's a complete bastard, and calling him that insults bastards everywhere!"
-Nalia De-Arnise
garourimgazette.wordpress.com/
www.vekn.net/forum-guidelines
Last edit: 08 Nov 2022 13:42 by Kraus.
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08 Nov 2022 17:07 #106749
by lip
Replied by lip on topic Helmi, the Wedding Planner: tools for Toreador
- Could be more canon (maybe an LA by Night ghoul or some other Toreador character)
- Could also reduce blood costs for vampires (allowing Scorn of Adonis to be more useful maybe)
- Should cost pool or blood (1?)
Love the idea
- Could also reduce blood costs for vampires (allowing Scorn of Adonis to be more useful maybe)
- Should cost pool or blood (1?)
Love the idea

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09 Nov 2022 09:19 #106764
by Kraus
I have no knowledge of WoD lore. Suggestions are welcome.
Scorn of Adonis does not cost blood, nor do most Toreador minion cards, but the restriction was put in place to not restrict future card inclusions: reducing blood costs can be huge, depending on where we'd go from here.
Should not cost blood or pool, as is - the effect is very, very narrow and there is a huge opportunity cost of drawing it in time, as is with all cost reduction engines. If more powerful, new synergy cards would be published, it could be debated. As a rule cost reduction cards that are nothing more than cost reduction should not cost themselves. The action taken and opportunity cost are already enough of a cost.
"Oh, to the Hades with the manners! He's a complete bastard, and calling him that insults bastards everywhere!"
-Nalia De-Arnise
garourimgazette.wordpress.com/
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Replied by Kraus on topic Helmi, the Wedding Planner: tools for Toreador
The name and theme are absolutely subject for change.- Could be more canon (maybe an LA by Night ghoul or some other Toreador character)
- Could also reduce blood costs for vampires (allowing Scorn of Adonis to be more useful maybe)
- Should cost pool or blood (1?)
Love the idea

Scorn of Adonis does not cost blood, nor do most Toreador minion cards, but the restriction was put in place to not restrict future card inclusions: reducing blood costs can be huge, depending on where we'd go from here.
Should not cost blood or pool, as is - the effect is very, very narrow and there is a huge opportunity cost of drawing it in time, as is with all cost reduction engines. If more powerful, new synergy cards would be published, it could be debated. As a rule cost reduction cards that are nothing more than cost reduction should not cost themselves. The action taken and opportunity cost are already enough of a cost.
"Oh, to the Hades with the manners! He's a complete bastard, and calling him that insults bastards everywhere!"
-Nalia De-Arnise
garourimgazette.wordpress.com/
www.vekn.net/forum-guidelines
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