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Some card ideas to boost Toreador, Ventrue and Nosferatu
22 Jul 2024 09:59 #112112
by Jannu
Potence, if it doesn't work, you just aren't using enough
National Coordinator of Finland
Prince of Hämeenlinna
Some card ideas to boost Toreador, Ventrue and Nosferatu was created by Jannu
My philosophy behind following card suggestions is that in V5 format where disciplines are more limited than before and clans need more tools to be better at what they should excel lorewise.
Ventrue
I feel they should have more opportunistic tools to be able to get things done. Voting should be their thing where they dominate.
Power move
Political action
Costs 2 pool
Requires Ventrue Clan symbol
Requires a vampire with a capacity of 9 or more.
Only one Power move can be played or called during a game. Allocate X-3 pool damage to two or more Metuselahs. X is the capacity of the acting vampire. If the referendum fails or is cancelled, the acting vampire takes 2 unpreventable damage.
Idea is that this is a one time only and quite risky vote to make an impact
Legacy of Aristocracy
Action modifier
Costs 2 blood
pre: This vampire gets +3 votes. This card costs Ventrue -1 blood.
dom/pre: Only useable when a political action is announced. Cancel one reaction card played by an ally or younger vampire during this political action (including referendum). This card costs Ventrue -1 blood.
DOM/PRE: As above and allies and younger vampires get -2 intercept. This card costs Ventrue -1 blood.
Idea is to help Ventrue to get to referendum in nowdays meta where 1 intercept is very common
Backroom deal
Action
Costs 1 blood
Requires Ventrue Clan symbol
+2 Stealth political action
This vampire calls a referendum listed on a political action card in any ash heap. Any requirements still apply. If this action is successful, remove the chosen card from play after the end of referendum.
Idea is to give Ventrue some flexibility in deck building and ability to be able to constantly vote. Also +2 stealth to get things going.
Toreador
Clan which in lore is most dealing with human society has very little incentive to play allies. Following cards are to amend that.
Chauffeur
Ally
Costs 2 pool
Requires Toreador Clan Symbol
Unique mortal ally with 1 life. 1 Strength, 0 bleed.
When Toreador Vampire announces an action, you may lock Chauffeur to give the acting Toreador vampire +1 Stealth or +2 Stealth if the Acting vampire has a vehicle.
Chamberlain
Ally
Costs 2 pool
Requires Toreador Clan Symbol
Unique mortal ally with 1 life. 0 Strength, 2 bleed.
When Toreador Vampire announces an action, you may lock Chamberlain to reduce blood or pool cost of that action by 1.
Private Security
Ally
No cost
Requires Toreador Clan Symbol
Mortal ally with 3 life. 1 Strength, 1 bleed.
Private Security can strike: 3R damage. Private Security has +1 intercept against actions targeting a Toreador vampire or locations controlled by you.
During your untap phase you must burn 1 pool or burn this ally.
Reporter
Ally
Costs 2 pool
Requires Toreador Clan Symbol
Unique mortal ally with 1 life. 0 Strength, 1 bleed.
During a D action Reporter may lock to reduce acting minion’s Stealth by 1. If that minion is a Vampire with two or more votes, reduce Stealth by 2 instead.
Socialite
Ally
Costs 3 pool
Requires Toreador Clan Symbol
Unique mortal ally with 1 life. 0 Strength, 3 bleed.
While Socialite is Unlocked, D actions targeting Mortal Allies cost 1 additional pool.
Malicious Gathering
Action Modifier/Action
Requires Toreador Clan Symbol
pre: (Action modifier) Only useable on a recruit ally action. Reduce ally’s cost by 1 pool or blood. Reduce cost by additional 1 pool or blood if the ally is Mortal.
PRE: +1 Stealth action. Choose up to 4 unlocked Mortal Allies you control and lock them. Burn 1 pool from a Metuselah for each chosen ally.
Nosferatu
Nosferatu are the Clan with weak in Clan disciplines to oust players so they need tools to achieve just that. They should be experts in intelligence use the knowledge to their benefit.
Foil the Plans
Action
Costs X blood
Requires Nosferatu Clan Symbol
obf: As a D action choose a Metuselah. If this action is successul, look at that Metuselahs hand. You may discard X+1 cards from that hand.
OBF: As above and for every Master card discarded the chosen Metuselah burns 1 pool
First among equals
Master
Costs 1 pool
Requires Nosferatu Clan Symbol
Choose one untitled Nosferatu vampire with a capacity over 4. Put his card on the Chosen Nosferatu. The Nosferatu with this card gains the tittle of Primogen.
Rig the Votes
Action modifier/reaction
Costs 1 pool
Requires Nosferatu Clan Symbol
Only useable during a referendum. Primogens gain +1 vote in this referendum. All unlocked Nosferatu Primogens may lock to gain +2 votes in this referendum
Dominate the Secrets
Political action
No cost
Requires Nosferatu Clan Symbol
Choose a Metuselah and name one card type of the following: Master, Political action, Combat or Reaction. If this referendum is successfull reveal the Chosen Metuselahs hand to all players. Burn all the cards of the chosen card type (multi-card type cars are also burned if one of the types is chosen) and the chosen Metuselah burns 1 pool for every card burned.
Whispering Shadows
Action modifier
Costs 1 blood
Only useable on d action as it is announced
obf: +1 stealth even if stealth is not yet needed
obf/ani: as above and if this vampire enters combat, controller of the opposing minion plays with open hand.
OBF/ANI: as above and if the action is succesfull and no reaction cards were played, unlock the acting vampire.
Challenge of the Alpha
Action
Costs 2 blood
pot: Enter combat with any minion. This acting vampire gets +1 strenght during that combat
ani/pot: as above, and opposing minion can not maneuver to long range during the first round of combat.
ANI/POT: as above and if this Vampire is ready and the opposing minion is not. The opposing minion's controller burns 3 pool.
Ventrue
I feel they should have more opportunistic tools to be able to get things done. Voting should be their thing where they dominate.
Power move
Political action
Costs 2 pool
Requires Ventrue Clan symbol
Requires a vampire with a capacity of 9 or more.
Only one Power move can be played or called during a game. Allocate X-3 pool damage to two or more Metuselahs. X is the capacity of the acting vampire. If the referendum fails or is cancelled, the acting vampire takes 2 unpreventable damage.
Idea is that this is a one time only and quite risky vote to make an impact
Legacy of Aristocracy
Action modifier
Costs 2 blood
pre: This vampire gets +3 votes. This card costs Ventrue -1 blood.
dom/pre: Only useable when a political action is announced. Cancel one reaction card played by an ally or younger vampire during this political action (including referendum). This card costs Ventrue -1 blood.
DOM/PRE: As above and allies and younger vampires get -2 intercept. This card costs Ventrue -1 blood.
Idea is to help Ventrue to get to referendum in nowdays meta where 1 intercept is very common
Backroom deal
Action
Costs 1 blood
Requires Ventrue Clan symbol
+2 Stealth political action
This vampire calls a referendum listed on a political action card in any ash heap. Any requirements still apply. If this action is successful, remove the chosen card from play after the end of referendum.
Idea is to give Ventrue some flexibility in deck building and ability to be able to constantly vote. Also +2 stealth to get things going.
Toreador
Clan which in lore is most dealing with human society has very little incentive to play allies. Following cards are to amend that.
Chauffeur
Ally
Costs 2 pool
Requires Toreador Clan Symbol
Unique mortal ally with 1 life. 1 Strength, 0 bleed.
When Toreador Vampire announces an action, you may lock Chauffeur to give the acting Toreador vampire +1 Stealth or +2 Stealth if the Acting vampire has a vehicle.
Chamberlain
Ally
Costs 2 pool
Requires Toreador Clan Symbol
Unique mortal ally with 1 life. 0 Strength, 2 bleed.
When Toreador Vampire announces an action, you may lock Chamberlain to reduce blood or pool cost of that action by 1.
Private Security
Ally
No cost
Requires Toreador Clan Symbol
Mortal ally with 3 life. 1 Strength, 1 bleed.
Private Security can strike: 3R damage. Private Security has +1 intercept against actions targeting a Toreador vampire or locations controlled by you.
During your untap phase you must burn 1 pool or burn this ally.
Reporter
Ally
Costs 2 pool
Requires Toreador Clan Symbol
Unique mortal ally with 1 life. 0 Strength, 1 bleed.
During a D action Reporter may lock to reduce acting minion’s Stealth by 1. If that minion is a Vampire with two or more votes, reduce Stealth by 2 instead.
Socialite
Ally
Costs 3 pool
Requires Toreador Clan Symbol
Unique mortal ally with 1 life. 0 Strength, 3 bleed.
While Socialite is Unlocked, D actions targeting Mortal Allies cost 1 additional pool.
Malicious Gathering
Action Modifier/Action
Requires Toreador Clan Symbol
pre: (Action modifier) Only useable on a recruit ally action. Reduce ally’s cost by 1 pool or blood. Reduce cost by additional 1 pool or blood if the ally is Mortal.
PRE: +1 Stealth action. Choose up to 4 unlocked Mortal Allies you control and lock them. Burn 1 pool from a Metuselah for each chosen ally.
Nosferatu
Nosferatu are the Clan with weak in Clan disciplines to oust players so they need tools to achieve just that. They should be experts in intelligence use the knowledge to their benefit.
Foil the Plans
Action
Costs X blood
Requires Nosferatu Clan Symbol
obf: As a D action choose a Metuselah. If this action is successul, look at that Metuselahs hand. You may discard X+1 cards from that hand.
OBF: As above and for every Master card discarded the chosen Metuselah burns 1 pool
First among equals
Master
Costs 1 pool
Requires Nosferatu Clan Symbol
Choose one untitled Nosferatu vampire with a capacity over 4. Put his card on the Chosen Nosferatu. The Nosferatu with this card gains the tittle of Primogen.
Rig the Votes
Action modifier/reaction
Costs 1 pool
Requires Nosferatu Clan Symbol
Only useable during a referendum. Primogens gain +1 vote in this referendum. All unlocked Nosferatu Primogens may lock to gain +2 votes in this referendum
Dominate the Secrets
Political action
No cost
Requires Nosferatu Clan Symbol
Choose a Metuselah and name one card type of the following: Master, Political action, Combat or Reaction. If this referendum is successfull reveal the Chosen Metuselahs hand to all players. Burn all the cards of the chosen card type (multi-card type cars are also burned if one of the types is chosen) and the chosen Metuselah burns 1 pool for every card burned.
Whispering Shadows
Action modifier
Costs 1 blood
Only useable on d action as it is announced
obf: +1 stealth even if stealth is not yet needed
obf/ani: as above and if this vampire enters combat, controller of the opposing minion plays with open hand.
OBF/ANI: as above and if the action is succesfull and no reaction cards were played, unlock the acting vampire.
Challenge of the Alpha
Action
Costs 2 blood
pot: Enter combat with any minion. This acting vampire gets +1 strenght during that combat
ani/pot: as above, and opposing minion can not maneuver to long range during the first round of combat.
ANI/POT: as above and if this Vampire is ready and the opposing minion is not. The opposing minion's controller burns 3 pool.
Potence, if it doesn't work, you just aren't using enough
National Coordinator of Finland
Prince of Hämeenlinna
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22 Jul 2024 11:57 #112116
by Lönkka
Replied by Lönkka on topic Some card ideas to boost Toreador, Ventrue and Nosferatu
Good ideas!
Some immediate thoughts sprang to my mind:
Private Security
"During your untap phase you must burn 1 pool or burn this ally."
Sees like VERY harsh price!
First among equals
There is already is Of Noble Blood and it is not really used.
Granted there are differences but not all in favor (this costing Pool, not Blood being the biggest.)
Rig the Votes
Again costing Pool instead of Blood seems a VERY high cost!
Some immediate thoughts sprang to my mind:
Private Security
"During your untap phase you must burn 1 pool or burn this ally."
Sees like VERY harsh price!
First among equals
There is already is Of Noble Blood and it is not really used.
Granted there are differences but not all in favor (this costing Pool, not Blood being the biggest.)
Rig the Votes
Again costing Pool instead of Blood seems a VERY high cost!
Finnish Politics!
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22 Jul 2024 12:30 #112119
by Jannu
Potence, if it doesn't work, you just aren't using enough
National Coordinator of Finland
Prince of Hämeenlinna
Replied by Jannu on topic Some card ideas to boost Toreador, Ventrue and Nosferatu
Good ideas!
Some immediate thoughts sprang to my mind:
Private Security
"During your untap phase you must burn 1 pool or burn this ally."
Sees like VERY harsh price!
At first I thought 2/3 pool cost but then decided that private contracts would likely work in the way of monthly subscription This ally standing there when combat deck is rushing would likely pay itself back as first round is free, you just have to pay for the sencond round forward
First among equals
There is already is Of Noble Blood and it is not really used.
Granted there are differences but not all in favor (this costing Pool, not Blood being the biggest.)
Nosferatu are the only Clan that would even try to do something with Primogen tittles and giving an option to just get one without the hassle of action would maybe be beneficial
Rig the Votes
Again costing Pool instead of Blood seems a VERY high cost!
I thought that the amount of votes potentially gained without disciplines should be balanced with a cost. Maybe could be just blood.
Potence, if it doesn't work, you just aren't using enough
National Coordinator of Finland
Prince of Hämeenlinna
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