What is the plural of Kiasyd
16 Jan 2012 09:54 #20938
by Ankha
What is the plural of Kiasyd was created by Ankha
According to whitewolf.wikia.com/wiki/Kiasyd, the plural should be Kiasyd.
Great Symposium states:
"among one or more Kiasyds"...
What is the correct plural?
Great Symposium states:
"among one or more Kiasyds"...
What is the correct plural?
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16 Jan 2012 12:52 #20947
by Angel74
"They had forgotten the first lesson, that we are to be powerful, beautiful, and without regret." ~ Armand.
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I'd say it would remain 'Kiasyd'.
"They had forgotten the first lesson, that we are to be powerful, beautiful, and without regret." ~ Armand.
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16 Jan 2012 14:35 #20952
by Jeff Kuta
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Replied by Jeff Kuta on topic Re: What is the plural of Kiasyd
Interesting question.
I think there are actually quite few clans which would take an -s to create a plural:
Abominations
Ahrimanes
Assamites
Blood Brothers
Daughters of Cacophony
Followers of Set (Setites)
Gargoyles
Harbingers of Skulls
Malkavians
(but not Malkavian antitribu)
That's it. All other clans take the same word for plural as singular.
Except for Ahrimanes, Assamites, and Malkavians, the -s is easy since the word pluralized is also a common noun. IMO clan Assamite takes a plural -s since it is similar to "assassins." Not sure I can explain Ahrimanes or Malkavians, though I wish I could say for a good reason other than "English is just that way."
I think there are actually quite few clans which would take an -s to create a plural:
Abominations
Ahrimanes
Assamites
Blood Brothers
Daughters of Cacophony
Followers of Set (Setites)
Gargoyles
Harbingers of Skulls
Malkavians
(but not Malkavian antitribu)
That's it. All other clans take the same word for plural as singular.
Except for Ahrimanes, Assamites, and Malkavians, the -s is easy since the word pluralized is also a common noun. IMO clan Assamite takes a plural -s since it is similar to "assassins." Not sure I can explain Ahrimanes or Malkavians, though I wish I could say for a good reason other than "English is just that way."
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16 Jan 2012 20:25 #20975
by Juggernaut1981




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Actually pluralising is not 'that' strange and its often to do with the category of the word you are trying to make plural.
1) The original word is 'uncountable'... e.g. sand. The only way to plural this category is if you are handling multiple types of sand. (You have a brown and a white sand; you have 2 sands) 'Uncountable' things often use 'much' as their 'I have heaps of this' word (e.g. I have been given much wheat. or I have much to be grateful about.)
2) The original word is 'countable'... e.g. cat. You usually make this word a plural by adding an 's' (when you don't have to worry about ending words with an s). They are fairly common and when you want to talk about different types of them, you usually need to write 'types of XYZ'. (e.g. I own three types of dog). Their 'large number' word is 'many' because you could in theory sit down and count them (where you wouldn't with 5kg of sand grains).
1) The original word is 'uncountable'... e.g. sand. The only way to plural this category is if you are handling multiple types of sand. (You have a brown and a white sand; you have 2 sands) 'Uncountable' things often use 'much' as their 'I have heaps of this' word (e.g. I have been given much wheat. or I have much to be grateful about.)
2) The original word is 'countable'... e.g. cat. You usually make this word a plural by adding an 's' (when you don't have to worry about ending words with an s). They are fairly common and when you want to talk about different types of them, you usually need to write 'types of XYZ'. (e.g. I own three types of dog). Their 'large number' word is 'many' because you could in theory sit down and count them (where you wouldn't with 5kg of sand grains).





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16 Jan 2012 20:32 #20976
by Pascal Bertrand
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Imho, "Malkavian" is an substantified adjective, which makes it eligible for the -s plural ending.
Ventrue, Tremere, Brujah, Giovanni (which has already a plural ending), Nosferatu, .. are the name of the breeder, and are used as qualifiers. "Ventrue" == "Ventrue vampire", hence the plural: "Ventrue vampires".
However, there seems to be a flaw with Ahrimanes (who should've been "Ahrimen", just for the fun of it).
Ventrue, Tremere, Brujah, Giovanni (which has already a plural ending), Nosferatu, .. are the name of the breeder, and are used as qualifiers. "Ventrue" == "Ventrue vampire", hence the plural: "Ventrue vampires".
However, there seems to be a flaw with Ahrimanes (who should've been "Ahrimen", just for the fun of it).
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