The Becoming

Deck Name : Crazy Twister 1.0
Author : DRSTRANGE26
Description :
This is a first attempt at trying to build a deck around The Becoming.
It uses Thaumaturgy to control the blood management issues in the deck.
The Twister part is because of the many master cards that remain in play and the many permanents the deck plays with.



Crypt [12 vampires] Capacity min: 3 max: 8 average: 6.25

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5x Reiner Stoschka 7 AUS DEM THA obf Malkavian:5
3x Lord Ephraim Wainw 6 AUS THA for pre Tremere:5
2x Lazarus James 8 AUS DEM PRE obf tha Malkavian:4
2x Bela 3 DEM ani obf pro Malkavian:5


Library [60 cards]

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Action [13]
6x Becoming, The
2x Call, The
3x Kindred Spirits
2x Pulse of the Canaille

Action Modifier [9]
3x Crocodile's Tongue
2x Eyes of Chaos
2x Into Thin Air
2x Mirror Walk

Action Modifier/Combat [2]
2x Swallowed by the Night

Action Modifier/Reaction [2]
2x Random Patterns

Combat [7]
2x Coma
5x Theft of Vitae

Equipment [3]
1x Bowl of Convergence
1x Rowan Ring
1x Sargon Fragment, The

Event [1]
1x Inconnu Tutelage

Master [21]
3x Ashur Tablets
4x Auspex
4x Dementation
6x Obfuscate
4x Thaumaturgy

Reaction [2]
2x Eyes of Argus

I have not playtested this deck.
But I have run it through a random generator and it looks to function the way it should.

KevinM wrote:

You're making a huge assumption -- that LSJ takes all the advice that he receives during play testing about how to fix the rocks in the gumball machine.

I'll tell you right now: for whatever reason, he doesn't.

The reason is simple. I'm sure you know that I don't mean to disrespect, because I don't actually agree with the reason, but reality always has a nasty tendency to get in the way of the ideal.

The reason is that the cards that get changed in playtest are the ones that are too strong. Those get lots of attention across multiple rounds of playtesting, because it's far worse for any CCG to have a brokenly-good element released into the wild than an element that's not particularly good. And since there's a limited amount of time and effort available to be expended on changing cards, and that effort gets expended on fixing the stuff that's way too good, the stuff that's not Tier One gets ignored.

I mean, I know that you know this, so I'm not sure why you're being obstreperous here. But I'm okay with taking the time to drop this science for the audience at home.

Amenophobis wrote:

I have lost count of the now-wallpaperish cards which we had pointed out during playtest which would have needed a small boost... *sigh*

Again, no offense intended, but see above. This is why, in certain ways, collectible-whatever games will always be inferior on the design side to fixed-component games.

I personally think Becoming is best in a single discpline decks, like for example I used them quite well in my mono protean !gangrel rush deck that had lot of agg damage, amaranths and gangrel conspiracies in it, it had like 8 protean masters in it to get everyone up to superior protean, most of which were gained through diablerie, but becomings helped to flush out the extra ones from hand that I was drawing, while giving another protean guy to do stuff with.

TryDeflectingThisGrapple wrote:

Kevin, would you like me to play a Troops deck at the WoN?

I have a Frontal Assault + Perpetual Care template designed using [pot] troops, discipliness combat cards and disarm. It's got a few rough edges, like dealing with [ANI] and it's not assembled yet. But I think I have enough unused Disarms lying around.

I bet you a pizza I can take at least a few VP with it.

I will bet you a $20 dinner somewhere that you will average less than 2.0 VP per game and not be able to get a single GW with any Shock Troops deck that you care to field -- so if you meet either criteria, you win the bet. I'll supply 20+ Shock Troops, if the bet is on.

KevinM wrote:

I will bet you a $20 dinner somewhere that you will average less than 2.0 VP per game and not be able to get a single GW with any Shock Troops deck that you care to field.

I quickly looked at some of the VP rates for the best players in the world. They seem to average about 2 VP per game played (back of the envelope calculation).

If I were to play this PoS in a tournament, I would need at least a 33% win rate to hit the other criteria. I think that is significantly higher than my GW rate with better decks.

Just so we're clear, you just set bar for a Shock Troops deck at the level of a top-5 player, playing first tier decks. Pshaw. I can tell you're from Vegas, the odds are stacked for the house.

I'll toss a deck together, since it's mostly outlined anyway. If things are going too well at the NAC and I need to adjust my ego significantly downward, I'll play the Troops

Nice discussion!

I have been playing around with becoming decks for some time, but havent struck gold yet. Due to the issues listed here.

Not going to fill in all the deck data and oust info etc.


Here are some of them:

Deck Name: Becoming the Toreador Anti - START
Created By:
Description:


Crypt: (12 cards, Min: 8, Max: 19, Avg: 3,41)

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1 Creamy Jade aus cel PRE vic5 Toreador Antitribu
1 Cristos Mantigo aus cel dom obf pre5 Toreador Antitribu
1 Gabriel de Cambrai aus cel dem obf pre5 Toreador Antitribu
1 Jonathan Gursel aus pre 3 Toreador Antitribu
2 Justine Chen pre 2 Toreador Antitribu
1 L`Epuisette aus cel pro 4 Toreador Antitribu
1 Loonar cel PRE 4 Toreador Antitribu
1 Monique Kim aus cel 3 Toreador Antitribu
2 Nicholas Chang aus 2 Toreador Antitribu
1 Sabrina aus cel pre 4 Toreador Antitribu

Library: (90 cards)

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Master (46 cards)
1 Anarch Troublemaker
1 Archon Investigation
1 Direct Intervention
3 Dreams of the Sphinx
3 Foundation Exhibit
7 Hungry Coyote, The
22 Obfuscate
3 Palla Grande
4 Parthenon, The
1 Pentex Subversion

Action (12 cards)
12 Becoming, The

Action Modifier (22 cards)
6 Faceless Night
3 Forgotten Labyrinth
5 Lost in Crowds
4 Marked Path
4 Veil the Legions

Political Action (8 cards)
8 Consanguineous Boon

Event (2 cards)
2 Anthelios, the Red Star

This deck was last saved at 23:07:21 on 30-03-2010






Deck Name: Becoming the Toreador Anti - START
Created By:
Description:


Crypt: (12 cards, Min: 8, Max: 19, Avg: 3,41)

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1 Creamy Jade aus cel PRE vic5 Toreador Antitribu
1 Cristos Mantigo aus cel dom obf pre5 Toreador Antitribu
1 Gabriel de Cambrai aus cel dem obf pre5 Toreador Antitribu
1 Jonathan Gursel aus pre 3 Toreador Antitribu
2 Justine Chen pre 2 Toreador Antitribu
1 L`Epuisette aus cel pro 4 Toreador Antitribu
1 Loonar cel PRE 4 Toreador Antitribu
1 Monique Kim aus cel 3 Toreador Antitribu
2 Nicholas Chang aus 2 Toreador Antitribu
1 Sabrina aus cel pre 4 Toreador Antitribu

Library: (90 cards)

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Master (53 cards)
1 Anarch Troublemaker
14 Celerity
2 Direct Intervention
2 Dreams of the Sphinx
1 Fetish Club Hunting Ground
14 Fortitude
3 Foundation Exhibit
7 Hungry Coyote, The
3 Palla Grande
4 Parthenon, The
2 Pentex Subversion

Action (18 cards)
1 Abbot
14 Becoming, The
3 Dream World

Action Modifier (14 cards)
14 Forced March

Political Action (4 cards)
4 Consanguineous Boon

Event (1 cards)
1 Anthelios, the Red Star

This deck was last saved at 16:33:37 on 19-03-2010




Deck Name: Becoming the media influence - START
Created By:
Description:


Crypt: (12 cards, Min: 7, Max: 15, Avg: 2,75)

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1 Antoinette DuChamp cel pre 1 Caitiff
1 Celine Chevalier obf ser 3 Followers of Set
1 Clarissa Steinburgen ani obf 3 Nosferatu
1 Emerson Wilkershire III pre 2 Toreador
1 Frederick the Weak pre 2 Brujah Antitribu
1 Hadrian Garrick obf pre 4 Followers of Set
1 Krid obf 2 Nosferatu
1 Lena Rowe aus obf pre 3 Pander
1 Nepata obf pre ser 4 Followers of Set
1 Tock obf pot pre 4 Nosferatu Antitribu
1 Vasilis pre 2 Brujah
1 Watenda obf 3 Malkavian

Library: (90 cards)

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Master (43 cards)
1 Barrens, The
2 Dreams of the Sphinx
1 Elder Library
11 Obfuscate
1 Pentex Subversion
22 Presence
4 Tribute to the Master
1 Wash

Action (25 cards)
11 Becoming, The
14 Media Influence

Action Modifier (15 cards)
3 Cloak the Gathering
5 Faceless Night
3 Lost in Crowds
4 Veil the Legions

Reaction (4 cards)
4 Delaying Tactics

Combo (3 cards)
3 Swallowed by the Night

This deck was last saved at 13:48:41 on 01-12-2010




Deck Name: Zubeida becoming public trust - START
Created By:
Description:

Crypt: (12 cards, Min: 10, Max: 32, Avg: 5,08)

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1 Axel Von Anders cel obf pot PRE5 Brujah Antitribu
1 Blister obf pot 3 Nosferatu Antitribu
1 Bloodfeud obf 2 Malkavian Antitribu
1 Gabriel de Cambrai aus cel dem obf pre5 Toreador Antitribu
1 Jeffrey Mullins cel OBF 4 Gangrel Antitribu
1 Lubomira Hradok OBF 3 Nosferatu Antitribu
1 Old Neddacka obf 2 Nosferatu Antitribu
1 Raphael Catarari aus pot tha OBF PRE5 Nosferatu Antitribu
4 Zubeida for ser OBF PRE PRO8 Abomination

Library: (75 cards)

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Master (31 cards)
2 Dreams of the Sphinx
7 Fortitude
4 Hungry Coyote, The
4 Parthenon, The
14 Presence

Action (18 cards)
7 Becoming, The
2 Dream World
9 Public Trust

Action Modifier (24 cards)
6 Cloak the Gathering
4 Faceless Night
8 Freak Drive
3 Mask of a Thousand Faces
3 Veil the Legions

Event (2 cards)
2 Anthelios, the Red Star

This deck was last saved at 16:50:49 on 17-01-2011





Deck Name: Reiner becomes the Dementation - START
Created By:
Description:

Crypt: (12 cards, Min: 16, Max: 28, Avg: 5,33)

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1 Antoine aus cel dem OBF5 Malkavian
1 Apache Jones aus for obf DEM5 Malkavian Antitribu
1 Arthur Denholm obf AUS DEM 5 Malkavian
1 Assad Salhoum aus dem dom obf5 Malkavian
2 Beauregard Krueller aus dem obf 4 Malkavian Antitribu
1 Bela ani obf pro DEM3 Malkavian
1 Luc dem vic OBF 5 Malkavian Antitribu
4 Reiner Stoschka obf AUS DEM THA7 Malkavian

Library: (70 cards)

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Master (25 cards)
1 Asylum Hunting Ground
13 Dementation
1 Institution Hunting Ground
3 Jake Washington (Hunter)
5 Obfuscate
2 Tribute to the Master

Action (18 cards)
7 Becoming, The
1 Blessing of Chaos
10 Kindred Spirits

Action Modifier (15 cards)
2 Cloak the Gathering
6 Eyes of Chaos
2 Marked Path
2 Mask of a Thousand Faces
3 Spying Mission

Reaction (6 cards)
4 Telepathic Misdirection
2 Wake with Evening`s Freshness

Ally (1 cards)
1 Muddled Vampire Hunter

Combo (5 cards)
3 Swallowed by the Night
2 Touch of Clarity

This deck was last saved at 13:31:39 on 18-01-2011




Deck Name: Becoming the Dementation - START
Created By:
Description:

Crypt: (12 cards, Min: 10, Max: 16, Avg: 3,41)

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1 Adelaide Davis aus dem obf 4 Malkavian
1 Beauregard Krueller aus dem obf 4 Malkavian Antitribu
1 Bloodfeud obf 2 Malkavian Antitribu
1 Cassandra Langely dem 2 Malkavian
1 Fabrizia Contreraz dem pot 4 Malkavian Antitribu
1 Florentina Lengauer aus OBF 4 Malkavian
1 Jackie DEM 3 Malkavian Antitribu
1 Jeremy Talbot dem obf 4 Malkavian
1 Marta aus dem 3 Malkavian Antitribu
1 Midget obf pre DEM 3 Malkavian Antitribu
1 Roger Farnsworth aus OBF 4 Malkavian Antitribu
1 Sean Rycek aus dem 4 Malkavian

Library: (90 cards)

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Master (29 cards)
1 Asylum Hunting Ground
12 Dementation
1 Dreams of the Sphinx
1 House of Sorrow
1 Institution Hunting Ground
6 Obfuscate
4 Parthenon, The
1 Pentex Subversion
1 Specialization
1 Sudden Reversal

Action (34 cards)
8 Becoming, The
6 Blessing of the Name
14 Kindred Spirits
6 Sibyl`s Tongue

Action Modifier (20 cards)
2 Cloak the Gathering
8 Eyes of Chaos
2 Faceless Night
2 Lost in Crowds
2 Marked Path
2 Spying Mission
2 Veil the Legions

Ally (1 cards)
1 Muddled Vampire Hunter

Event (2 cards)
2 Anthelios, the Red Star

Combo (4 cards)
1 Deny
2 Swallowed by the Night
1 Touch of Clarity

This deck was last saved at 12:31:15 on 17-05-2011





Deck Name: Guillaueme becomming - START
Created By:
Description:

Crypt: (12 cards, Min: 10, Max: 36, Avg: 5,33)

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1 Almodo Giovanni dom pot 3 Giovanni
1 Cristobal Ghiberti nec 2 Giovanni
1 Donatello Giovanni aus pot pre DOM5 Giovanni
1 Eric Milliner pot 2 Giovanni
1 Gianmaria Giovanni POT dom nec obt5 Giovanni
4 Guillaume Giovanni CEL DOM NEC POT obt9 Giovanni
1 Kay Polerno dom necpro 4 Giovanni
1 Nunzio Giovanni nec pot 3 Giovanni
1 Primo Giovanni domnec pot 4 Giovanni

Library: (90 cards)

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Master (36 cards)
2 Acquired Ventrue Assets
1 Dis Pater
10 Dominate
1 Elder Library
1 Giant`s Blood
1 Morgue Hunting Ground
4 Obtenebration
2 Parthenon, The
1 Powerbase: Savannah
1 Secure Haven
6 Storage Annex
6 Vessel

Action (20 cards)
8 Becoming, The
1 Blessing of the Name
8 Govern the Unaligned
3 Sudario Refraction

Action Modifier (12 cards)
2 Bonding
2 Foreshadowing Destruction
2 Seduction
3 Shadow Play
3 Shroud of Night

Reaction (15 cards)
5 Deflection
2 Delaying Tactics
3 Obedience
1 On the Qui Vive
4 Wake with Evening`s Freshness

Combat (3 cards)
3 Shadow Body

Ally (3 cards)
1 Ambrosius, The Ferryman (Wraith)
1 Leonardo, Mortician
1 Tye Cooper

Equipment (1 cards)
1 Palatial Estate

This deck was last saved at 13:15:56 on 08-06-2011