[Fun Design Challenge] 5th Sabbat Starter?
11 Jan 2019 23:43 #92782
by LivesByProxy
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I was leaning towards a !gangrel
multi-act stealth-bleed deck featuring Serpentis.
With Black Chantry willing to print new group 4-5 vampires in these starters, and V5 pushing
and
together, a couple of new !gang sporting Serpentis would give them access to some decent bleed modifiers.
![!gang! !gang!](/media/kunena/emoticons/IconClanGangrelAnti.gif)
With Black Chantry willing to print new group 4-5 vampires in these starters, and V5 pushing
![:SER: :SER:](/media/kunena/emoticons/IconDisSerpentisSup.gif)
![:PRO: :PRO:](/media/kunena/emoticons/IconDisProteanSup.gif)
![:gang: :gang:](/media/kunena/emoticons/IconClanGangrel.gif)
![:CEL: :CEL:](/media/kunena/emoticons/IconDisCeleritySup.gif)
![:FOR: :FOR:](/media/kunena/emoticons/IconDisFortitudeSup.gif)
![:PRO: :PRO:](/media/kunena/emoticons/IconDisProteanSup.gif)
![:cap6: :cap6:](/media/kunena/emoticons/IconMiscCapacity6.gif)
![:PRO: :PRO:](/media/kunena/emoticons/IconDisProteanSup.gif)
![:AUS: :AUS:](/media/kunena/emoticons/IconDisAuspexSup.gif)
![:OBF: :OBF:](/media/kunena/emoticons/IconDisObfuscateSup.gif)
![:POT: :POT:](/media/kunena/emoticons/IconDisPotenceSup.gif)
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13 Jan 2019 02:50 - 13 Jan 2019 08:08 #92816
by LivesByProxy
Gangrel. Noddist. Camarilla. Once each turn, LivesByProxy may burn 1 blood to lose Protean
until the end of the turn and gain your choice of superior Auspex
, Obfuscate
, or Potence
for the current action.
Replied by LivesByProxy on topic [Fun Design Challenge] 5th Sabbat Starter?
For example, something like this:
Crypt
Xendil Charmer
Priscus
Luke Fellows
Unlocks after successfully bleeding.
Synner-G
Unlocks after successfully equipping electronics.
Charlie Tyne
![:cap4: :cap4:](/media/kunena/emoticons/IconMiscCapacity4.gif)
Tassiter
(NEW)
Mekhetra
(NEW) You and Mekhetra can play cards requiring Followers of Set as though she were of that clan.
Gianna
(NEW) Can burn 2 blood to unlock and take an additional bleed action once per turn.
Longshanks
(NEW)
Shae Walston
(NEW) Can unlock an older Sabbat vampire who has completed a successful action this turn as a +1 stealth
action.
Masters
1 Theater of Ennoia
1 Serpentis
2 Pentex Subversion
2 Agent of Power
2 Sudden Reversal
Actions
2 Abbot
4 Marked Territory
4 Enticement
4 Dual Form
4 Flurry of Action
Modifiers
4 Truth of a Thousand Lies
5 Instantaneous Transformation
4 Spying Mission
4 Faceless Night
Combat
6 Form of Mist
Combo
4 Swallowed by Night
Equipment
1 Book of Going Forth by Night
3 Laptop Computer
Crypt
Xendil Charmer
![:SER: :SER:](/media/kunena/emoticons/IconDisSerpentisSup.gif)
![:PRO: :PRO:](/media/kunena/emoticons/IconDisProteanSup.gif)
![:CEL: :CEL:](/media/kunena/emoticons/IconDisCeleritySup.gif)
![:obf: :obf:](/media/kunena/emoticons/IconDisObfuscate.gif)
![:cap7: :cap7:](/media/kunena/emoticons/IconMiscCapacity7.gif)
Luke Fellows
![:PRO: :PRO:](/media/kunena/emoticons/IconDisProteanSup.gif)
![:OBF: :OBF:](/media/kunena/emoticons/IconDisObfuscateSup.gif)
![:CEL: :CEL:](/media/kunena/emoticons/IconDisCeleritySup.gif)
![:cap7: :cap7:](/media/kunena/emoticons/IconMiscCapacity7.gif)
Synner-G
![:OBF: :OBF:](/media/kunena/emoticons/IconDisObfuscateSup.gif)
![:CEL: :CEL:](/media/kunena/emoticons/IconDisCeleritySup.gif)
![:pro: :pro:](/media/kunena/emoticons/IconDisProtean.gif)
![:cap5: :cap5:](/media/kunena/emoticons/IconMiscCapacity5.gif)
Charlie Tyne
![:ser: :ser:](/media/kunena/emoticons/IconDisSerpentis.gif)
![:obf: :obf:](/media/kunena/emoticons/IconDisObfuscate.gif)
![:pro: :pro:](/media/kunena/emoticons/IconDisProtean.gif)
![:cap4: :cap4:](/media/kunena/emoticons/IconMiscCapacity4.gif)
Tassiter
![:SER: :SER:](/media/kunena/emoticons/IconDisSerpentisSup.gif)
![:OBF: :OBF:](/media/kunena/emoticons/IconDisObfuscateSup.gif)
![:CEL: :CEL:](/media/kunena/emoticons/IconDisCeleritySup.gif)
![:cap6: :cap6:](/media/kunena/emoticons/IconMiscCapacity6.gif)
Mekhetra
![:SER: :SER:](/media/kunena/emoticons/IconDisSerpentisSup.gif)
![:PRO: :PRO:](/media/kunena/emoticons/IconDisProteanSup.gif)
![:OBF: :OBF:](/media/kunena/emoticons/IconDisObfuscateSup.gif)
![:CEL: :CEL:](/media/kunena/emoticons/IconDisCeleritySup.gif)
![:pre: :pre:](/media/kunena/emoticons/IconDisPresence.gif)
![:cap8: :cap8:](/media/kunena/emoticons/IconMiscCapacity8.gif)
Gianna
![:PRO: :PRO:](/media/kunena/emoticons/IconDisProteanSup.gif)
![:CEL: :CEL:](/media/kunena/emoticons/IconDisCeleritySup.gif)
![:obf: :obf:](/media/kunena/emoticons/IconDisObfuscate.gif)
![:ser: :ser:](/media/kunena/emoticons/IconDisSerpentis.gif)
![:cap6: :cap6:](/media/kunena/emoticons/IconMiscCapacity6.gif)
Longshanks
![:CEL: :CEL:](/media/kunena/emoticons/IconDisCeleritySup.gif)
![:obf: :obf:](/media/kunena/emoticons/IconDisObfuscate.gif)
![:cap4: :cap4:](/media/kunena/emoticons/IconMiscCapacity4.gif)
Shae Walston
![:ser: :ser:](/media/kunena/emoticons/IconDisSerpentis.gif)
![:pro: :pro:](/media/kunena/emoticons/IconDisProtean.gif)
![:obf: :obf:](/media/kunena/emoticons/IconDisObfuscate.gif)
![:cel: :cel:](/media/kunena/emoticons/IconDisCelerity.gif)
![:ani: :ani:](/media/kunena/emoticons/IconDisAnimalism.gif)
![:cap5: :cap5:](/media/kunena/emoticons/IconMiscCapacity5.gif)
![(D) (D)](/media/kunena/emoticons/IconMiscDirectedAction.gif)
Masters
1 Theater of Ennoia
1 Serpentis
2 Pentex Subversion
2 Agent of Power
2 Sudden Reversal
Actions
2 Abbot
4 Marked Territory
4 Enticement
4 Dual Form
4 Flurry of Action
Modifiers
4 Truth of a Thousand Lies
5 Instantaneous Transformation
4 Spying Mission
4 Faceless Night
Combat
6 Form of Mist
Combo
4 Swallowed by Night
Equipment
1 Book of Going Forth by Night
3 Laptop Computer
![:gang: :gang:](/media/kunena/emoticons/IconClanGangrel.gif)
![:CEL: :CEL:](/media/kunena/emoticons/IconDisCeleritySup.gif)
![:FOR: :FOR:](/media/kunena/emoticons/IconDisFortitudeSup.gif)
![:PRO: :PRO:](/media/kunena/emoticons/IconDisProteanSup.gif)
![:cap6: :cap6:](/media/kunena/emoticons/IconMiscCapacity6.gif)
![:PRO: :PRO:](/media/kunena/emoticons/IconDisProteanSup.gif)
![:AUS: :AUS:](/media/kunena/emoticons/IconDisAuspexSup.gif)
![:OBF: :OBF:](/media/kunena/emoticons/IconDisObfuscateSup.gif)
![:POT: :POT:](/media/kunena/emoticons/IconDisPotenceSup.gif)
Last edit: 13 Jan 2019 08:08 by LivesByProxy.
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14 Jan 2019 10:27 - 14 Jan 2019 10:29 #92850
by Bloodartist
The deck is under the legal minimum at 59 cards. Overall, a bleed deck that bleeds with actions and modifiers should be at 80-90 card range so you don't run out of cards trying to oust the entire table.
Antigangrel could be a "clan" deck for the sabbat, but focusing on combat/bleeding. Stealth bleed... while they do have stealth, they don't have that much +bleed so I dont like that idea. Maybe focus on deep songs? The serpentis is...unorthodox.
A heretic is a man who sees with his own eyes.
—Gotthold Ephraim Lessing
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For example, something like this:
The deck is under the legal minimum at 59 cards. Overall, a bleed deck that bleeds with actions and modifiers should be at 80-90 card range so you don't run out of cards trying to oust the entire table.
Antigangrel could be a "clan" deck for the sabbat, but focusing on combat/bleeding. Stealth bleed... while they do have stealth, they don't have that much +bleed so I dont like that idea. Maybe focus on deep songs? The serpentis is...unorthodox.
A heretic is a man who sees with his own eyes.
—Gotthold Ephraim Lessing
Last edit: 14 Jan 2019 10:29 by Bloodartist.
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14 Jan 2019 15:24 #92855
by LivesByProxy
Gangrel. Noddist. Camarilla. Once each turn, LivesByProxy may burn 1 blood to lose Protean
until the end of the turn and gain your choice of superior Auspex
, Obfuscate
, or Potence
for the current action.
Replied by LivesByProxy on topic [Fun Design Challenge] 5th Sabbat Starter?
Yes, it was just a rough draft. I do like unorthodox decks. ![:side: :side:](/media/kunena/emoticons/sideways.png)
I should've added Zephyrs and more Spying Missions because they combo. Having 8-9 Spying Missions, 4-6 Truth of 1K Lies, and 4-5 Enticements would be approximately 40-50 points of pool damage. Is that enough? That's not including Laptop Computers or retainers like Tasha Morgan and J. S. Simons, Esq.
Maybe we could add a Mylan Horseed (Goblin) for even more fun, but one is already included in the Parliament of Shadows Lasombra Starter.
The Eternal Mask is also an option. I really wish Cat Burglary, Precision, and Arson weren't terrible.
![:side: :side:](/media/kunena/emoticons/sideways.png)
I should've added Zephyrs and more Spying Missions because they combo. Having 8-9 Spying Missions, 4-6 Truth of 1K Lies, and 4-5 Enticements would be approximately 40-50 points of pool damage. Is that enough? That's not including Laptop Computers or retainers like Tasha Morgan and J. S. Simons, Esq.
Maybe we could add a Mylan Horseed (Goblin) for even more fun, but one is already included in the Parliament of Shadows Lasombra Starter.
The Eternal Mask is also an option. I really wish Cat Burglary, Precision, and Arson weren't terrible.
![:( :(](/media/kunena/emoticons/sad.png)
![:gang: :gang:](/media/kunena/emoticons/IconClanGangrel.gif)
![:CEL: :CEL:](/media/kunena/emoticons/IconDisCeleritySup.gif)
![:FOR: :FOR:](/media/kunena/emoticons/IconDisFortitudeSup.gif)
![:PRO: :PRO:](/media/kunena/emoticons/IconDisProteanSup.gif)
![:cap6: :cap6:](/media/kunena/emoticons/IconMiscCapacity6.gif)
![:PRO: :PRO:](/media/kunena/emoticons/IconDisProteanSup.gif)
![:AUS: :AUS:](/media/kunena/emoticons/IconDisAuspexSup.gif)
![:OBF: :OBF:](/media/kunena/emoticons/IconDisObfuscateSup.gif)
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14 Jan 2019 16:59 #92856
by Kushiel
No, they don't.
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I should've added Zephyrs and more Spying Missions because they combo.
No, they don't.
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14 Jan 2019 17:39 #92857
by LivesByProxy
Gangrel. Noddist. Camarilla. Once each turn, LivesByProxy may burn 1 blood to lose Protean
until the end of the turn and gain your choice of superior Auspex
, Obfuscate
, or Potence
for the current action.
Replied by LivesByProxy on topic [Fun Design Challenge] 5th Sabbat Starter?
How do you figure?
![:? :?](/media/kunena/emoticons/confused.png)
![:gang: :gang:](/media/kunena/emoticons/IconClanGangrel.gif)
![:CEL: :CEL:](/media/kunena/emoticons/IconDisCeleritySup.gif)
![:FOR: :FOR:](/media/kunena/emoticons/IconDisFortitudeSup.gif)
![:PRO: :PRO:](/media/kunena/emoticons/IconDisProteanSup.gif)
![:cap6: :cap6:](/media/kunena/emoticons/IconMiscCapacity6.gif)
![:PRO: :PRO:](/media/kunena/emoticons/IconDisProteanSup.gif)
![:AUS: :AUS:](/media/kunena/emoticons/IconDisAuspexSup.gif)
![:OBF: :OBF:](/media/kunena/emoticons/IconDisObfuscateSup.gif)
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