ECQ organizers playing the tournament
06 Feb 2013 22:08 #44910
by Aquel que se Indigna
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Hello everybody:
I´m about to organize the Spanish ECQ. I have spoken with my national coordinator and he is not sure if I´m allowed to play the tournament, he tells me it was discussed by the Inner Circle members but they didn´t reach a resolution. I will thank if the Inner Circle tells me if it´s possible for me to play or not.
Greetings.
I´m about to organize the Spanish ECQ. I have spoken with my national coordinator and he is not sure if I´m allowed to play the tournament, he tells me it was discussed by the Inner Circle members but they didn´t reach a resolution. I will thank if the Inner Circle tells me if it´s possible for me to play or not.
Greetings.
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07 Feb 2013 03:56 #44914
by KevinM
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Replied by KevinM on topic Re: ECQ organizers playing the tournament
There is no rule that states that a tournament organizer may not play in his own tournament.
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07 Feb 2013 04:05 #44915
by Adonai
Replied by Adonai on topic Re: ECQ organizers playing the tournament
If the organizer can play in their regional qualifier, then there is no reason for this rule.
www.vekn.net/index.php/continental-championships
Add a rule or drop a rule, but make it consistent.
www.vekn.net/index.php/continental-championships
To reward the organizers who put so much time and effort into organizing these events, the organizers for Regional continental qualifiers automatically qualify.
Add a rule or drop a rule, but make it consistent.
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07 Feb 2013 05:20 #44917
by acbishop
Replied by acbishop on topic Re: ECQ organizers playing the tournament
I remember that some time ago before I was member of the IC the rule changed a little bit. Organizer gets the qualification only if she/he doesn't play. Checking the forum through my mobile is not the easiest way to find tjhe oginal post. I guess Johannes or Pascal will confirm (or deny) later

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07 Feb 2013 05:43 #44919
by Jesper
Replied by Jesper on topic Re: ECQ organizers playing the tournament
As far as I know, it was discussed, but it was never changed.
And if thats the case, no you cant play in your own qualification tournement.
Yep on the 15th december 2011 Johannes came up with this (sorry the post is from the NC forum):
"Since I cannot see any consensus so far we are going to stay with the current rules."
It was then discussed if the rules/guidlines should be revised, but no such thing ever happened.
/Jesper
And if thats the case, no you cant play in your own qualification tournement.
Yep on the 15th december 2011 Johannes came up with this (sorry the post is from the NC forum):
"Since I cannot see any consensus so far we are going to stay with the current rules."
It was then discussed if the rules/guidlines should be revised, but no such thing ever happened.
/Jesper
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07 Feb 2013 08:43 #44920
by Hakuron
National Coordinator Germany
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Replied by Hakuron on topic Re: ECQ organizers playing the tournament
In my opinion the question behind the question is, if we want to make it possible or not to use the multi-judge system for a qualifier or championship tournament ...
So, e.g. for an ECQ, the actual rules call for someone, who does NOT play the tournament, the judge. I assume that very often this person is also the organiser.
What to do? It is always good to have a "really" neutral, non-playing judge ... But does it make sense to "force" an active player not to play for this reason -- in times where we are struggling for active players?
For myself, I like both playing and judging, but if it came to non-playing, I would almost always choose non-judging ...
2.9. Multi-Judge System
The Multi-Judge System may be used at any non-qualifier, non-championship tournament with at least eight participants (i.e., having at least two tables).
So, e.g. for an ECQ, the actual rules call for someone, who does NOT play the tournament, the judge. I assume that very often this person is also the organiser.
What to do? It is always good to have a "really" neutral, non-playing judge ... But does it make sense to "force" an active player not to play for this reason -- in times where we are struggling for active players?
For myself, I like both playing and judging, but if it came to non-playing, I would almost always choose non-judging ...
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nc [dot] germany [at] magenta [dot] de
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