Poll Villein

They need them in their own decks. Their playstyle is mostly huge vampires, so they have one set of villeins that they move between each deck.

Also, thy have a valid argument against using other cards as proxies. "I paid 100 Euros for my Villeins since I was not allowed to proxy. So should you."

Can't really argue with that, since they would never have used that much cash if proxying had been allowed.

stromgard wrote:

Can't really argue with that, since they would never have used that much cash if proxying had been allowed.

My argument against that (sorry if I hurt someone) is "you being insane does not compel me to be insane too".

KevinM wrote:

stromgard wrote:

Ehm no. They go for 15 dollars each. For me, 150 dollars is a lot of cash.In our group, 2-3 players have decks with many Villein in them. The rest of us can't build decks with large vampires. Not decks that work in our group, anyway.

When you ask your friends to borrow 8 of their Villein for a deck that you want to try, what do they say?

They need them in their own decks. Their playstyle is mostly huge vampires, so they have one set of villeins that they move between each deck.

Also, thy have a valid argument against using other cards as proxies. "I paid 100 Euros for my Villeins since I was not allowed to proxy. So should you."

Can't really argue with that, since they would never have used that much cash if proxying had been allowed.

stromgard wrote:

KevinM wrote:

stromgard wrote:

Ehm no. They go for 15 dollars each. For me, 150 dollars is a lot of cash.In our group, 2-3 players have decks with many Villein in them. The rest of us can't build decks with large vampires. Not decks that work in our group, anyway.

When you ask your friends to borrow 8 of their Villein for a deck that you want to try, what do they say?

They need them in their own decks. Their playstyle is mostly huge vampires, so they have one set of villeins that they move between each deck.

Also, thy have a valid argument against using other cards as proxies. "I paid 100 Euros for my Villeins since I was not allowed to proxy. So should you."

Can't really argue with that, since they would never have used that much cash if proxying had been allowed.

You can counter that with:
"Exactly. You paid allot to play VtES the way you like it. With that attitude you'll have less and less people to play with and the amount of money you payed will be more and more for nothing."

But I now agree with Kevin in that if you really need, you can snipe Villeins under 8 US$ in eBay.
All you need to do is spend time there.

Brum wrote:

But I now agree with Kevin in that if you really need, you can snipe Villeins under 8 US$ in eBay.

I appreciate that you agree to that fact at last. I wonder though why you only believe Kevin on that and nobody else as for example I tried to convince you of that matter for one year now

Sorry, should have included everyone that stated that, Joscha.
I wrote that for the following reasons:

1. I've seen multiple cases of Villeins going under 8. One would not be enough for me, because it could've been sheer luck.
2. Besides here, I talk with Kevin allot about VtES and non VtES subjects elsewhere. Subconsciously I named him because we're friends.

However I don't think anyone's opinions are less valuable than others and I think all contributions are positive, if done a polite and comprehensive manner.
Of course in things like rules and org play, I take Pascal's opinions on a higher note, but I think you guys can understand that.