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15 Jan 2012 11:00 - 15 Jan 2012 11:02 #20889
by Ohlmann
Spirit summoning chamber, redirection timing, "only as action is annonced" timin was created by Ohlmann
Hello.
* If I have a Spirit Summoning Chamber, can I do the action on the card anytime ? Can I, for example, tap during an action to get a Mirror Walk ? Or when I choose a strike tap the spirit summoning chamber to get a walk of flame ?
* does the spirit summoning chamber allow me to search for a visceratika card with thaumaturgy outferior and play the
version ?
Spirit Summoning Chamber
Master
Tremere antitribu
[2 Pool]
Master: unique location.
Tap this card and burn 1 blood from a ready Tremere antitribu you control to search your library for a minion card that requires Thaumaturgy [tha] . Show that card to all players and put it in your hand. Discard down and shuffle afterward.
* Are redirection card playable only immediatly after blocks are declined, or anytime once blocks are declined ? In other words, if my opponent play conditionning (after block are declined) can I alway play a Telepathic Misdirection ?
Telepathic Misdirection
Reaction
Auspex
1 Blood
[AUS] Only usable when a minion is bleeding you, after blocks are declined. Tap this reacting vampire. Choose another Methuselah other than the acting minion's controller. The acting minion is now bleeding that Methuselah.
* Can I play a Walk of caine inferior or a Shell game, then burn a Concoction of vitality ? Both are useable "as action is annonced". Can I play a regular action modifier before consumming a Concoction of Vitality ?
Concoction of Vitality
Equipment
[1 Pool]
Unique equipment.
When the vampire with this card announces an action, he or she may burn this card to prevent vampires from blocking that action. If he or she does so, this vampire cannot play cards requiring Disciplines until the action is complete.
Shell Game
[Action Modifier]
Only usable when the action is announced.
[san] Tap X other ready Blood Brothers you control of the same circle as this one to give this Blood Brother +X stealth (even if stealth is not yet needed). If the action is successful, you may untap one of those Blood Brothers.
Walk of Caine
[Action Modifier]
Choose X ready Blood Brothers you control who belong to the same circle as this acting vampire (including this acting vampire). Each chosen vampire must burn a blood, or this card has no effect.
[san] +X bleed. Only usable as a bleed action is announced. After playing this card, you cannot play another action modifier to further increase the bleed for this action.
* If I have a Spirit Summoning Chamber, can I do the action on the card anytime ? Can I, for example, tap during an action to get a Mirror Walk ? Or when I choose a strike tap the spirit summoning chamber to get a walk of flame ?
* does the spirit summoning chamber allow me to search for a visceratika card with thaumaturgy outferior and play the

Spirit Summoning Chamber
Master
Tremere antitribu
[2 Pool]
Master: unique location.
Tap this card and burn 1 blood from a ready Tremere antitribu you control to search your library for a minion card that requires Thaumaturgy [tha] . Show that card to all players and put it in your hand. Discard down and shuffle afterward.
* Are redirection card playable only immediatly after blocks are declined, or anytime once blocks are declined ? In other words, if my opponent play conditionning (after block are declined) can I alway play a Telepathic Misdirection ?
Telepathic Misdirection
Reaction
Auspex
1 Blood
[AUS] Only usable when a minion is bleeding you, after blocks are declined. Tap this reacting vampire. Choose another Methuselah other than the acting minion's controller. The acting minion is now bleeding that Methuselah.
* Can I play a Walk of caine inferior or a Shell game, then burn a Concoction of vitality ? Both are useable "as action is annonced". Can I play a regular action modifier before consumming a Concoction of Vitality ?
Concoction of Vitality
Equipment
[1 Pool]
Unique equipment.
When the vampire with this card announces an action, he or she may burn this card to prevent vampires from blocking that action. If he or she does so, this vampire cannot play cards requiring Disciplines until the action is complete.
Shell Game
[Action Modifier]
Only usable when the action is announced.
[san] Tap X other ready Blood Brothers you control of the same circle as this one to give this Blood Brother +X stealth (even if stealth is not yet needed). If the action is successful, you may untap one of those Blood Brothers.
Walk of Caine
[Action Modifier]
Choose X ready Blood Brothers you control who belong to the same circle as this acting vampire (including this acting vampire). Each chosen vampire must burn a blood, or this card has no effect.
[san] +X bleed. Only usable as a bleed action is announced. After playing this card, you cannot play another action modifier to further increase the bleed for this action.
Last edit: 15 Jan 2012 11:02 by Ohlmann.
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15 Jan 2012 14:27 - 15 Jan 2012 17:00 #20891
by Pascal Bertrand
"Regular" (i.e. without the "as action is announced" cardtext) action modifiers (such as Conditioning, for instance) are not playable in the "as action is announced" window. See [LSJ 20070930] for one occurrence of that question on the NewsGroup.
Replied by Pascal Bertrand on topic Re: Spirit summoning chamber, redirection timing, "only as action is annonced" timin
Yes.Hello.
* If I have a Spirit Summoning Chamber, can I do the action on the card anytime ? Can I, for example, tap during an action to get a Mirror Walk ? Or when I choose a strike tap the spirit summoning chamber to get a walk of flame ?
Yes.* does the spirit summoning chamber allow me to search for a visceratika card with thaumaturgy outferior and play the
version ?
Any time after blocks were declined.* Are redirection card playable only immediatly after blocks are declined, or anytime once blocks are declined ? In other words, if my opponent play conditionning (after block are declined) can I alway play a Telepathic Misdirection ?
Cards usable "as the action is announced" are usable as the action is announced. A player can play several of them.* Can I play a Walk of caine inferior or a Shell game, then burn a Concoction of vitality ? Both are useable "as action is annonced". Can I play a regular action modifier before consumming a Concoction of Vitality ?
"Regular" (i.e. without the "as action is announced" cardtext) action modifiers (such as Conditioning, for instance) are not playable in the "as action is announced" window. See [LSJ 20070930] for one occurrence of that question on the NewsGroup.
Last edit: 15 Jan 2012 17:00 by Pascal Bertrand.
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15 Jan 2012 16:39 #20908
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Replied by echiang on topic Re: Spirit summoning chamber, redirection timing, "only as action is annonced" timin
Just pointing out that inferior Walk of Caine is in the "as action is announced" window (it's the superior that is not).
Cards usable "as the action is announced" are usable as the action is announced. A player can play several of them.* Can I play a Walk of caine inferior or a Shell game, then burn a Concoction of vitality ? Both are useable "as action is annonced". Can I play a regular action modifier before consumming a Concoction of Vitality ?
"Regular" (i.e. without the "as action is announced" cardtext) action modifiers (such as Conditioning or Walk of Caine, for instance) are not playable in the "as action is announced" window. See [LSJ 20070930] for one occurrence of that question on the NewsGroup.
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15 Jan 2012 17:00 #20910
by Pascal Bertrand
Replied by Pascal Bertrand on topic Re: Spirit summoning chamber, redirection timing, "only as action is annonced" timin
Erm. My bad. Thanks for pointing that out
Just pointing out that inferior Walk of Caine is in the "as action is announced" window (it's the superior that is not).
Cards usable "as the action is announced" are usable as the action is announced. A player can play several of them.* Can I play a Walk of caine inferior or a Shell game, then burn a Concoction of vitality ? Both are useable "as action is annonced". Can I play a regular action modifier before consumming a Concoction of Vitality ?
"Regular" (i.e. without the "as action is announced" cardtext) action modifiers (such as Conditioning or Walk of Caine, for instance) are not playable in the "as action is announced" window. See [LSJ 20070930] for one occurrence of that question on the NewsGroup.

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16 Jan 2012 01:11 #20925
by CryWolf
Interesting. I didn't know this. So you can't --
Edward Vignes bleeds with Govern, with Conditioning ...
(Top decked a Seduction)
... and Seduction on Isabel de Leon!


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Replied by CryWolf on topic Re: Spirit summoning chamber, redirection timing, "only as action is annonced" timin
"Regular" (i.e. without the "as action is announced" cardtext) action modifiers (such as Conditioning, for instance) are not playable in the "as action is announced" window.
Interesting. I didn't know this. So you can't --
Edward Vignes bleeds with Govern, with Conditioning ...
(Top decked a Seduction)
... and Seduction on Isabel de Leon!



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16 Jan 2012 02:56 #20927
by Adonai
Correct, the Seduction can be drawn after the Govern, and played immediately, but it cannot be played after the Conditioning.
Replied by Adonai on topic Re: Spirit summoning chamber, redirection timing, "only as action is annonced" timin
I didn't know this. So you can't --
Edward Vignes bleeds with Govern, with Conditioning ...
(Top decked a Seduction)
... and Seduction on Isabel de Leon!
Correct, the Seduction can be drawn after the Govern, and played immediately, but it cannot be played after the Conditioning.
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