Blood Cost & Allies
03 Feb 2012 12:52 #22291
by Pascal Bertrand
Replied by Pascal Bertrand on topic Re: Blood Cost & Allies
General Rulings wrote:And if the minion is a Rafastio Ghoul ?
Card Text:
Ghoul with 2 life, 1 bleed, 1 strength
Rafastio Ghoul can play cards that require thaumaturgy as a vampire with a capacity of 3. Any cost in blood is paid with her life. If a card would give her blood, give her life instead.
Or maybe the life as blood cost only works for thaumaturgy cards ?
An ally that plays a card "as a vampire" is treated "as a vampire" for all puposes of the resolution of the play of that card including any continuing effects, but not for effects the card generates for being in play. [RTR 20070707]
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03 Feb 2012 13:24 #22292
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I asked because there was a dot between the sentences and i wasn't sure if it was working only for thaumaturgy cards...
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03 Feb 2012 14:12 #22294
by Pascal Bertrand
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Good catch. That one should have been in parentheses.
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03 Feb 2012 22:04 #22312
by drnlmza
Rafastio Ghoul no longer says that. The latest version of the card text is just
Rafastio Ghoul can play cards requiring basic Thaumaturgy [tha] as a vampire with a capacity of 3. The rest is covered by the rulebook in section 1.6.3.
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And if the minion is a Rafastio Ghoul ?
Card Text:
Ghoul with 2 life, 1 bleed, 1 strength
Rafastio Ghoul can play cards that require thaumaturgy as a vampire with a capacity of 3. Any cost in blood is paid with her life. If a card would give her blood, give her life instead.
Or maybe the life as blood cost only works for thaumaturgy cards ?
Rafastio Ghoul no longer says that. The latest version of the card text is just
Rafastio Ghoul can play cards requiring basic Thaumaturgy [tha] as a vampire with a capacity of 3. The rest is covered by the rulebook in section 1.6.3.
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04 Feb 2012 18:59 #22336
by Vlad
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Ok for this one, but I believe that was an omission in the Rafastio Ghoul card text...
But the question is the same with the Herald of Topheth...
Herald of Topheth [BL:R2]
Cardtype: Ally
Clan: Baali
Cost: 3 pool
Demon with 5 life. 3 strength, 1 bleed, flight [FLIGHT].
The Herald may enter combat with a ready minion controlled by another Methuselah as a
action. The Herald may play cards requiring basic Daimoinon [dai], Potence [pot] and/or Presence
But the question is the same with the Herald of Topheth...

Herald of Topheth [BL:R2]
Cardtype: Ally
Clan: Baali
Cost: 3 pool
Demon with 5 life. 3 strength, 1 bleed, flight [FLIGHT].
The Herald may enter combat with a ready minion controlled by another Methuselah as a

as a vampire with a capacity of 5. Any cost in blood is paid with his life. If a card would give him blood, give him life instead. If the Herald has less than 5 life during your untap phase, add 1 life. During your influence phase, burn 1 pool or burn the Herald.
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04 Feb 2012 22:54 #22349
by Adonai
And so is the answer.
If an ally can play a specific subset of cards 'as a vampire', then they can play that specific subset of cards and pay life where blood is required.
All other cards that require blood cannot be played by that ally.
Replied by Adonai on topic Re: Blood Cost & Allies
Ok for this one, but I believe that was an omission in the Rafastio Ghoul card text...
But the question is the same with the Herald of Topheth...
And so is the answer.
If an ally can play a specific subset of cards 'as a vampire', then they can play that specific subset of cards and pay life where blood is required.
All other cards that require blood cannot be played by that ally.
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