file Blood Cost & Allies

03 Feb 2012 12:52 #22291 by Pascal Bertrand

And if the minion is a Rafastio Ghoul ?

Card Text:

Ghoul with 2 life, 1 bleed, 1 strength

Rafastio Ghoul can play cards that require thaumaturgy as a vampire with a capacity of 3. Any cost in blood is paid with her life. If a card would give her blood, give her life instead.


Or maybe the life as blood cost only works for thaumaturgy cards ?

General Rulings wrote:

An ally that plays a card "as a vampire" is treated "as a vampire" for all puposes of the resolution of the play of that card including any continuing effects, but not for effects the card generates for being in play. [RTR 20070707]

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03 Feb 2012 13:24 #22292 by Vlad
Replied by Vlad on topic Re: Blood Cost & Allies
I asked because there was a dot between the sentences and i wasn't sure if it was working only for thaumaturgy cards...

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03 Feb 2012 14:12 #22294 by Pascal Bertrand
Good catch. That one should have been in parentheses.

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03 Feb 2012 22:04 #22312 by drnlmza
Replied by drnlmza on topic Re: Blood Cost & Allies

And if the minion is a Rafastio Ghoul ?

Card Text:

Ghoul with 2 life, 1 bleed, 1 strength

Rafastio Ghoul can play cards that require thaumaturgy as a vampire with a capacity of 3. Any cost in blood is paid with her life. If a card would give her blood, give her life instead.


Or maybe the life as blood cost only works for thaumaturgy cards ?


Rafastio Ghoul no longer says that. The latest version of the card text is just
Rafastio Ghoul can play cards requiring basic Thaumaturgy [tha] as a vampire with a capacity of 3. The rest is covered by the rulebook in section 1.6.3.

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04 Feb 2012 18:59 #22336 by Vlad
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Ok for this one, but I believe that was an omission in the Rafastio Ghoul card text...

But the question is the same with the Herald of Topheth... ;)

Herald of Topheth [BL:R2]
Cardtype: Ally
Clan: Baali
Cost: 3 pool
Demon with 5 life. 3 strength, 1 bleed, flight [FLIGHT].
The Herald may enter combat with a ready minion controlled by another Methuselah as a (D) action. The Herald may play cards requiring basic Daimoinon [dai], Potence [pot] and/or Presence
 as a vampire with a capacity of 5. Any cost in blood is paid with his life. If a card would give him blood, give him life instead. If the Herald has less than 5 life during your untap phase, add 1 life. During your influence phase, burn 1 pool or burn the Herald.

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04 Feb 2012 22:54 #22349 by Adonai
Replied by Adonai on topic Re: Blood Cost & Allies

Ok for this one, but I believe that was an omission in the Rafastio Ghoul card text...

But the question is the same with the Herald of Topheth... ;)


And so is the answer.

If an ally can play a specific subset of cards 'as a vampire', then they can play that specific subset of cards and pay life where blood is required.

All other cards that require blood cannot be played by that ally.

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