file Form of Mist vs Blissful Agony?

23 Feb 2012 12:55 #23948 by bakija
So I'm in a fight vs a Salubri. My strike is Form of Mist at superior (SCE, continue at +1 stealth). My opponent's strike is Blissful Agony at superior (SCE, go fight someone else). What happens?




Blissful Agony: [VAL] Strike: combat ends. Choose a minion controlled by a Methuselah other than the opposing vampire's controller. The opposing vampire enters combat with that minion.

Form of Mist: [PRO] Strike: combat ends. If this vampire is acting -(and needs stealth when this strike resolves)-, he or she may burn 1 blood after combat ends to continue the action at +1 stealth as if unblocked. A vampire may play only one Form of Mist at superior each action.

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23 Feb 2012 13:25 #23955 by Klaital
The new combat from Blissful Agony interrupts the continue action from Form of Mist and the new combat starts.
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23 Feb 2012 21:41 #24000 by bakija

The new combat from Blissful Agony interrupts the continue action from Form of Mist and the new combat starts.


Huh. Ok then. If you use the Dodge version of Form of Mist, do you get to avoid the new combat, as the Dodge generally saves you from the effects of your opponent's strike?

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23 Feb 2012 23:29 #24006 by Adonai

If you use the Dodge version of Form of Mist, do you get to avoid the new combat, as the Dodge generally saves you from the effects of your opponent's strike?


The new combat is avoided by any Dodge, yes.

LSJ 10-20-2005

> I strike BA and my opponent strikes dodge... in some order. Does
> Blissfull Agony affect the dodger, or does it effect the combat, or
> does it effect me? Cause I mean... I'm getting out of the combat, and
> someone else is joining. Doesn't look like it effected the would be
> dodger at all...

Entering combat with the minion falls in the "things that affect the
minion" category.

Dodge protects the minion from that effect.

> So in the case whenever any combat strike effect mentions to opposing
> minion, a dodge would protect them?

The dodge protects him whether he's mentioned or not.
If he's not mentioned, though, there's little from which to protect
him.

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24 Feb 2012 09:42 #24031 by Zenedar
Sorry if I'm at fault for posting this here but how does Blissful Agony work with Psyche then? My opponent plays BA on VAL can I play Psyche! to start a new combat with him and disrupt the 'change target of combat mechanic' ?

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