Trochomancy+bounce

Player A bleeds, his prey doesn't block, player A plays Trochomancy, his prey bounces bleed - whose ash heap you remove cards from, your original target or your current?

Trochomancy
Type: Action Modifier
Requires: Auspex & Necromancy
[nec] Remove 13 cards in the target Methuselah's ash heap from the game to get +1 bleed. Not usable if there aren't enough cards in that ash heap. You cannot play another action modifier to increase this bleed.
[aus][nec] As [nec] above, but remove only 7 cards.
[AUS][NEC] As [aus][nec] above, but for +2 bleed

you remove the cards as a part of the cost of paying for trochomancy, which in your example means they are removed from the target before deflection is played.

Just as I suspected!

Excellent news for my anti-Ashurs !Tremere deck, which is yet to be. Thanks guys.

Reyda wrote:

you remove the cards as a part of the cost of paying for trochomancy, which in your example means they are removed from the target before deflection is played.

Correct.

All supporting wider use of Kindred Spirits with Trochomancy. It's pure win when you play either of the two vampires that can do it as-influenced!
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OK, maybe not, though I might drop one Night moves into a deck that already uses Trochomancy and has some [obf]