file Self targeting D action

09 Jul 2012 10:11 #32920 by Malachy
Heys!

Let us assume I have an ally who is Red List. I want to burn him via Set's Curse which burns an ally as a D action. Am I applied to search for a Trophy card?

The main question is can one make a D action against himself? Is it still a D action or it changes like a diablerie action ( D action against others, undirected against self)?

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09 Jul 2012 10:26 - 09 Jul 2012 10:28 #32926 by jamesatzephyr

Heys!

Let us assume I have an ally who is Red List. I want to burn him via Set's Curse which burns an ally as a D action. Am I applied to search for a Trophy card?


No. Being against yourself, it's not a (D) action.

The main question is can one make a D action against himself? Is it still a D action or it changes like a diablerie action ( D action against others, undirected against self)?


Something that affects you - and only you - is an undirected action.

From a post I wrote some time back :

The action is by you against something you control (or pool, hand etc.).
Therefore, it is an undirected action.

If you take an action that affects someone else (e.g. diablerie, their
pool, hand etc.), that's a directed action against that Methuselah.

If you take an action that affects someone else (minions, pool, hand
etc.) and it also affects you, that's a directed action against the
target. e.g. "(D) Bleed, and untap a minion you control if successful"
is a directed action against the bleed target - although you get a
benefit too. It's not directed against you.

If you take an action that affects multiple Methuselahs, all of the
targets can block and it's a (D) action against those Methuselahs.
(Under the old rules, this would be an undirected action.) Example:
superior Shepherd's Innocence, Border Skirmish.

If it affects multiple Methuselahs _and_ me, it's still a (D) action
against those other Methuselahs.

In all circumstances, calling a referendum is an undirected action,
irrespective of who the referendum will affect (or might affect).

Last edit: 09 Jul 2012 10:28 by jamesatzephyr.
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09 Jul 2012 17:24 #32946 by KevinM
Replied by KevinM on topic Re: Self targeting D action

Let us assume I have an ally who is Red List. I want to burn him via Set's Curse which burns an ally as a D action. Am I applied to search for a Trophy card?

The main question is can one make a D action against himself? Is it still a D action or it changes like a diablerie action ( D action against others, undirected against self)?

Rulebook, 6.2.2.1: "If the action is not directed at another Methuselah (or at something controlled by another Methuselah), then the action is called undirected..."

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10 Jul 2012 04:51 #32972 by Pascal Bertrand
Correct answers from jamesatzephyr and KevinM.

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