Infernal Servitor and Call the Great Beast timing
09 Jul 2012 10:30 - 09 Jul 2012 10:30 #32930
by Ankha
Infernal Servitor and Call the Great Beast timing was created by Ankha
I control only 1 Infernal Servitor, Nergal with a Call the Great Beast on it (with 10 counters).
Nergal puts the 11th counter on the Call the Great Beast. Does the Infernal Servitor 1/ burn because there's a moment where I control no infernal vampire at all 2/ not burn because the Call the Great Beast effect is resolved instantaneously so when Nergal is burned, the Great Beast is there?
Thanks.
Name: Infernal Servitor
Cardtype: Ally
Cost: 1 pool
Discipline: Daimoinon
Unique demon with 2 life. 1 strength, 3 bleed. Requires an infernal vampire.
[dai] Move the servitor to the ready region when recruited. Remove her from the game if she successfully performs an action (after resolution) or if you control no infernal vampires.
[DAI] As above, and the servitor may play cards requiring Daimoinon [dai] or Obfuscate [obf] as a vampire.
Name: Call the Great Beast
[BL:R1, KMW:PB]
Cardtype: Action
Clan: Baali
Cost: 1 blood
+1 stealth action.
Put this card on the acting Baali and put X ritual counters on it, where X is the capacity of this Baali. This Baali may put a ritual counter on this card as a +1 stealth action. When this card has more than 10 ritual counters, burn this Baali and choose three Disciplines. This card becomes a unique clanless independent infernal vampire with 9 capacity, 4 strength and 3 bleed. The Great Beast has the chosen three Disciplines at superior. Move 9 blood to him from the blood bank. The Great Beast can enter combat with any ready minion controlled by another Methuselah as a
action and can prevent 1 damage each combat.
Nergal puts the 11th counter on the Call the Great Beast. Does the Infernal Servitor 1/ burn because there's a moment where I control no infernal vampire at all 2/ not burn because the Call the Great Beast effect is resolved instantaneously so when Nergal is burned, the Great Beast is there?
Thanks.
Name: Infernal Servitor
Cardtype: Ally
Cost: 1 pool
Discipline: Daimoinon
Unique demon with 2 life. 1 strength, 3 bleed. Requires an infernal vampire.
[dai] Move the servitor to the ready region when recruited. Remove her from the game if she successfully performs an action (after resolution) or if you control no infernal vampires.
[DAI] As above, and the servitor may play cards requiring Daimoinon [dai] or Obfuscate [obf] as a vampire.
Name: Call the Great Beast
[BL:R1, KMW:PB]
Cardtype: Action
Clan: Baali
Cost: 1 blood
+1 stealth action.
Put this card on the acting Baali and put X ritual counters on it, where X is the capacity of this Baali. This Baali may put a ritual counter on this card as a +1 stealth action. When this card has more than 10 ritual counters, burn this Baali and choose three Disciplines. This card becomes a unique clanless independent infernal vampire with 9 capacity, 4 strength and 3 bleed. The Great Beast has the chosen three Disciplines at superior. Move 9 blood to him from the blood bank. The Great Beast can enter combat with any ready minion controlled by another Methuselah as a

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09 Jul 2012 17:22 #32945
by KevinM
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Replied by KevinM on topic Re: Infernal Servitor and Call the Great Beast timing
The resolution of the CTGB effect isn't interrupted by Infernal Servitor's card text, I don't think.
Does anything in the game work that way?
Does anything in the game work that way?
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you shall never be in peril." -- Sun Tzu, *The Art of War*
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09 Jul 2012 17:30 #32947
by Malachy
NC of Hungary
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Replied by Malachy on topic Re: Infernal Servitor and Call the Great Beast timing
I would think that processes "happening" in the card text have no time windows between them. Like you can stockpile Spying Mission (only usable on a successful bleed but in the end it is not successful) or one would die due to a political action which happens to give her pool so she stays alive, and so on...
In this case I'm convinced Infernal Servitor doesn't get removed because it can't interfere in CtGB's inner changes so to speak
Of course IANP, and I just guess how these "happenings in card texts" work...
In this case I'm convinced Infernal Servitor doesn't get removed because it can't interfere in CtGB's inner changes so to speak

Of course IANP, and I just guess how these "happenings in card texts" work...
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09 Jul 2012 18:24 #32951
by Megabaja
Ignorance is bliss.
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Replied by Megabaja on topic Re: Infernal Servitor and Call the Great Beast timing
I would say that the resolution of CtGB triggers Servitor's text. Having no specific text means -as soon as possible- in my book.
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09 Jul 2012 18:31 #32952
by KevinM
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Replied by KevinM on topic Re: Infernal Servitor and Call the Great Beast timing
The only way that I'm aware of that an effect can interrupt another effect is card text. Infernal Servitor does not have the required text.
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you shall never be in peril." -- Sun Tzu, *The Art of War*
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09 Jul 2012 19:05 #32956
by Megabaja
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Replied by Megabaja on topic Re: Infernal Servitor and Call the Great Beast timing
Let's say A has 2 pool and a minion. B bleeds A with Frederick the Weak for one, having Changeling Skin Mask also. A's minion attempts to block, and Frederick plays Lost in Crowds. He increases bleed with Old Friend's making it for two. A cannot block and is forced to remove all of his pool. He is ousted. When exactly does he remove his only minion from play? Or, should he remove his minion first or should he remove his Powerbase: Montreal before that?
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