Uncontrolled Impulse
24 Aug 2012 20:26 #35328
by Juggernaut1981




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Uncontrolled Impulse
Type: Action Modifier
Requires: Ishtarri
Cost: 1 blood
+2 stealth. Not usable if any non-mandatory actions have been performed this turn.
Should the second sentence be read as if it was:
"Not usable if any non-mandatory actions have been successfully performed this turn"
OR
"Not usable if any non-mandatory actions have been declared this turn."
Since the card uses 'non standard' wording, I felt unsure about its usage when it came up in a social game recently.
Type: Action Modifier
Requires: Ishtarri
Cost: 1 blood
+2 stealth. Not usable if any non-mandatory actions have been performed this turn.
Should the second sentence be read as if it was:
"Not usable if any non-mandatory actions have been successfully performed this turn"
OR
"Not usable if any non-mandatory actions have been declared this turn."
Since the card uses 'non standard' wording, I felt unsure about its usage when it came up in a social game recently.





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24 Aug 2012 20:40 - 25 Aug 2012 07:21 #35330
by Boris The Blade
Replied by Boris The Blade on topic Re: Uncontrolled Impulse
"Performed" is used everywhere in the rulebook, but I haven't seen it defined. It seems to mean "resolved" since it is the same word used for NRA.
Last edit: 25 Aug 2012 07:21 by Boris The Blade.
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25 Aug 2012 09:47 - 25 Aug 2012 10:01 #35337
by KevinM
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you shall never be in peril." -- Sun Tzu, *The Art of War*
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Replied by KevinM on topic Re: Uncontrolled Impulse
Yeah, the word perform is total shit and always has been. It's incredibly insufficient to define what it's trying to define. All "perform(s)(ed)(ing)" should be changed to "attempt(s)(ed)(ing)" unless otherwise already clarified using "successfully".
fr.ex. This card is incredibly confusing, if one is trying to posit the definition of perform...
Chameleon's Colors
[SPI] Only usable at long range. Strike: combat ends. If this vampire was blocked while performing an action other than bleeding, the action continues as if unblocked.
...because the modifier "was blocked" seems to change the definition of perform to mean "attempting", whereas in Jugg's example of Uncontrolled Impulse, there is no clarifying modifier, hence his question.
fr.ex. This card is incredibly confusing, if one is trying to posit the definition of perform...
Chameleon's Colors
[SPI] Only usable at long range. Strike: combat ends. If this vampire was blocked while performing an action other than bleeding, the action continues as if unblocked.
...because the modifier "was blocked" seems to change the definition of perform to mean "attempting", whereas in Jugg's example of Uncontrolled Impulse, there is no clarifying modifier, hence his question.
Kevin M., Prince of Las Vegas
"Know your enemy and know yourself; in one-thousand battles
you shall never be in peril." -- Sun Tzu, *The Art of War*
"Contentment...Complacency...Catastrophe!" -- Joseph Chevalier
Please visit VTESville daily! vtesville.myminicity.com/
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Last edit: 25 Aug 2012 10:01 by KevinM.
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25 Aug 2012 10:57 #35341
by Juggernaut1981




Baron of Sydney, Australia, 418
Replied by Juggernaut1981 on topic Re: Uncontrolled Impulse
The relevant cards seem to be:
Change of Target
Flow within the Mountain
Malkavian Derangement: Paranoia
Ravnos Carnival
Red Herring
Soul Decoration
Veil the Legions
But even then the usage of the word Perform is VERY inconsistent.
Change of Target
Flow within the Mountain
Malkavian Derangement: Paranoia
Ravnos Carnival
Red Herring
Soul Decoration
Veil the Legions
But even then the usage of the word Perform is VERY inconsistent.





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25 Aug 2012 11:04 #35342
by KevinM
Kevin M., Prince of Las Vegas
"Know your enemy and know yourself; in one-thousand battles
you shall never be in peril." -- Sun Tzu, *The Art of War*
"Contentment...Complacency...Catastrophe!" -- Joseph Chevalier
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Replied by KevinM on topic Re: Uncontrolled Impulse
There's actually 29 cards that need to be changed.

Kevin M., Prince of Las Vegas
"Know your enemy and know yourself; in one-thousand battles
you shall never be in peril." -- Sun Tzu, *The Art of War*
"Contentment...Complacency...Catastrophe!" -- Joseph Chevalier
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25 Aug 2012 11:21 #35343
by Juggernaut1981




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Replied by Juggernaut1981 on topic Re: Uncontrolled Impulse
I was just trying to pick the cards likely to have relevant rulings.





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