file Uncontrolled Impulse

24 Aug 2012 20:26 #35328 by Juggernaut1981
Uncontrolled Impulse
Type: Action Modifier
Requires: Ishtarri
Cost: 1 blood
+2 stealth. Not usable if any non-mandatory actions have been performed this turn.


Should the second sentence be read as if it was:
"Not usable if any non-mandatory actions have been successfully performed this turn"

OR

"Not usable if any non-mandatory actions have been declared this turn."


Since the card uses 'non standard' wording, I felt unsure about its usage when it came up in a social game recently.

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24 Aug 2012 20:40 - 25 Aug 2012 07:21 #35330 by Boris The Blade
"Performed" is used everywhere in the rulebook, but I haven't seen it defined. It seems to mean "resolved" since it is the same word used for NRA.
Last edit: 25 Aug 2012 07:21 by Boris The Blade.

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25 Aug 2012 09:47 - 25 Aug 2012 10:01 #35337 by KevinM
Replied by KevinM on topic Re: Uncontrolled Impulse
Yeah, the word perform is total shit and always has been. It's incredibly insufficient to define what it's trying to define. All "perform(s)(ed)(ing)" should be changed to "attempt(s)(ed)(ing)" unless otherwise already clarified using "successfully".

fr.ex. This card is incredibly confusing, if one is trying to posit the definition of perform...

Chameleon's Colors
[SPI] Only usable at long range. Strike: combat ends. If this vampire was blocked while performing an action other than bleeding, the action continues as if unblocked.

...because the modifier "was blocked" seems to change the definition of perform to mean "attempting", whereas in Jugg's example of Uncontrolled Impulse, there is no clarifying modifier, hence his question.

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Last edit: 25 Aug 2012 10:01 by KevinM.
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25 Aug 2012 10:57 #35341 by Juggernaut1981
The relevant cards seem to be:
Change of Target
Flow within the Mountain
Malkavian Derangement: Paranoia
Ravnos Carnival
Red Herring
Soul Decoration
Veil the Legions

But even then the usage of the word Perform is VERY inconsistent.

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25 Aug 2012 11:04 #35342 by KevinM
Replied by KevinM on topic Re: Uncontrolled Impulse
There's actually 29 cards that need to be changed. :)

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25 Aug 2012 11:21 #35343 by Juggernaut1981
I was just trying to pick the cards likely to have relevant rulings.

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