Karen Suadela & New Inquisition
19 Oct 2012 21:17 #39501
by Boris The Blade
Replied by Boris The Blade on topic Re: Karen Suadela & New Inquisition
You can choose Ponticulus as a target for the Talbot Chainsaw damage. I don't see why this one should be any different.
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19 Oct 2012 22:28 #39504
by KevinM
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Replied by KevinM on topic Re: Karen Suadela & New Inquisition
Please show me this ruling.Does this fall under the "you can't take actions/use effects that would have no results" ruling?
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20 Oct 2012 01:33 #39505
by Juggernaut1981




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Replied by Juggernaut1981 on topic Re: Karen Suadela & New Inquisition
It's that general ruling principle that won't let you call Parity Shift if you have the most pool, won't let you call Reckless Agitation if there is only one other player than yourself, etc. It's the "Can't use an effect/take an action if there are no valid targets" concept. PB and LSJ have frequently dragged it out.
So the question is... can you use New Inquisition (a Gehenna card) to target Karen Suadela even if you know she is "immune" to Gehenna cards. Or in another sense: Is Immunity to a Card Type (e.g. Immune to Gehenna Cards) the same as "unable to be targeted by a card type" or "targeting this minion with that card type has no effect"?
So the question is... can you use New Inquisition (a Gehenna card) to target Karen Suadela even if you know she is "immune" to Gehenna cards. Or in another sense: Is Immunity to a Card Type (e.g. Immune to Gehenna Cards) the same as "unable to be targeted by a card type" or "targeting this minion with that card type has no effect"?





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20 Oct 2012 05:48 #39508
by Ohlmann
Replied by Ohlmann on topic Re: Karen Suadela & New Inquisition
@Juggernaut : what you describe is very different from "you can't take actions/use effects that would have no results", no ? AFAIK, you can use, eg, Horsehoe on Ponti, he won't die but it's not illegal
Well, there is a difference : Ponticulus is immune to the damage done by the Talbot effect, but not to the effect. Karen is immune to the whole package.
You can choose Ponticulus as a target for the Talbot Chainsaw damage. I don't see why this one should be any different.
Well, there is a difference : Ponticulus is immune to the damage done by the Talbot effect, but not to the effect. Karen is immune to the whole package.
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20 Oct 2012 06:39 #39512
by KevinM
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Replied by KevinM on topic Re: Karen Suadela & New Inquisition
EXACTLY. Jugg's words were not only incorrect, they were entirely sloppy, thus further obfuscating the original point of the post.@Juggernaut : what you describe is very different from "you can't take actions/use effects that would have no results", no ? AFAIK, you can use, eg, Horsehoe on Ponti, he won't die but it's not illegal.
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