file Bringing retainers into play

30 Jan 2013 17:48 - 31 Jan 2013 12:38 #44610 by Trigger
llomba
Animal with 1 life. Requires a Laibon.
Put Ilomba on any minion (this is a +1 stealth (D) action if that minion is controlled by another Methuselah). If Ilomba would burn a life (or would otherwise be burned), this minion burns a blood or life instead. If he or she cannot, he or she is burned. A minion may have only one Ilomba.


Swarm
Animal with 1 life. Requires a ready Laibon. Put the Swarm on any ready minion (employing the Swarm is a +1 stealth (D) action if that minion is controlled by another Metuselah). If this action is blocked, put the Swarm on the acting minion instead (no cost is paid). During this minion`s untap phase, if the Swarm has more than 1 life, it burns a life; otherwise it steals a blood or life from this minion. A minion may have only one Swarm

When you try to employ llomba, do you put it on someone elses minion as a (D) action, or do you HAVE to put it on your minion, and then on another turn, use the "Put Ilomba on any minion"?

Just wondering when the "Put Ilomba on any minion" takes affect or timing. For reference, "Swarm" says when you employ as below which is where I was confused.


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30 Jan 2013 18:04 #44611 by Ohlmann
It's when you employ the llomba / Swarm that you decide which minion will get it, instead of the performing minion. Their ability to be put on any minion is a modification of the normal recruit action, not an action you can take when you have the retainer.

Once you have one of thoses on a minion, the minion cannot move it without card effect.
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31 Jan 2013 07:03 #44647 by Pascal Bertrand
Your question is difficult to parse (it is inside that quote block, with no question mark).

Anyways, when playing Ilomba / Swarm / Charnas, the target minion is chosen amongst the terms of the effect. The "Put Ilomba/..." isn't an in-play effect.
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31 Jan 2013 12:38 #44653 by Trigger
Thanks, I updated my post. :P

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31 Jan 2013 12:42 #44654 by Trigger
One more question if I may which relates to Retainers.

Invoke Poison Glands

[abo] [REFLEX] Cancel a frenzy card played on this vampire as it is played.
[abo] Strike: hand strike at +1 damage.
[ABO] Strike: burn the opposing animal or mortal, or strike: hand strike at +X damage, where X is the number of Orun on this vampire.


Normally you can only target Retainers at Long range, but does Invoke POison Glands let you target, or in this case Burn, a animal or mortal retainer at close?

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31 Jan 2013 12:57 #44655 by Boris The Blade
"The opposing..." only refers to the minion you are fighting, not one of his retainers. Even if the burn strike was ranged, you could not use it on a retainer.

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