file Agaitas and the Heart of Nizchetus

04 Feb 2013 18:41 - 04 Feb 2013 18:43 #44824 by Wedge
If Agaitas special has been used to draw cards from your preys library, can you bury them with the Heart? If so what happens?

Agaitas, The Scholar of Antiquities, 6, AUS for NEC, Harbingers of Skulls, 2
Sabbat: Whenever you play a card, you may draw its replacement from your prey's library instead of your own. Put the card drawn face-up in front of you. It is still considered to be in your hand, to be played or discarded as normal.

Heart of Nizchetus, Equipment, 1 pool, R
Unique equipment. During your untap phase, if the bearer is ready, you may draw up to three cards from your library and then move the same number of cards from your hand to the bottom of your library.

1.3. Golden Rule of Card Ownership

Your cards are never transferred to another player permanently as a result of card play. At the end of the game, the cards you began the game with are returned to you. If you are ousted before the end of the game, any of your cards that other players control remain in play until burned as normal.

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04 Feb 2013 18:49 #44826 by Pendargon
no, by agaitas cardtext

Sabbat: Whenever you play a card, you may draw

cards drawn by heart are not played

:QUI: :POT: :OBE: :CEL: :OBF: :tore: :assa:

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04 Feb 2013 18:51 #44827 by Ohlmann
And you cannot put card taken from your prey library under your own. Two reason for that :
* only your card can go in your library
* they are considered in your hand to be played and discarded. Not to be put in your library.

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04 Feb 2013 18:52 #44828 by Wedge
That is not the question, the question about the cards you already have in yuor "hand" from agaitas's special.

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04 Feb 2013 18:58 #44829 by Wedge

And you cannot put card taken from your prey library under your own. Two reason for that :
* only your card can go in your library
* they are considered in your hand to be played and discarded. Not to be put in your library.


I know they can't go into you library, but do go to the bottom of your prey's, or his ash heap or simply cannot be affected by the Heart?

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04 Feb 2013 19:09 - 04 Feb 2013 19:10 #44830 by Ohlmann

I know they can't go into you library, but do go to the bottom of your prey's, or his ash heap or simply cannot be affected by the Heart?


As I said, they are not valid target for your Heart, since it look at card in your hand for something else than playing or discarding them. Even without that, you cannot put them under your deck, so you cannot choose them.

The logic is the same as 2nd tradition vs Seduction : since you cannot do the whole package, you cannot do it at all.
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