file Mask of a Thousand Faces & bleed

01 Mar 2013 06:41 #45573 by jAvel
Mask of a Thousand Faces
[obf] Only usable by a ready, untapped vampire other than the acting minion who is capable of performing the action. Not usable if any action modifiers or other effects have been used that could not have been used if this vampire were the acting vampire. Untap the acting minion and tap this vampire instead. The action continues with this vampire as the acting minion.

Minion A goes bleed.
Minion B plays Mask and continues bleed in place of A.
Can minion A go bleed again after that?

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01 Mar 2013 08:39 #45575 by wesile
I don't think so.

NRA... the 1st minion declared a bleed action. He cannot repeat this action again this turn.

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01 Mar 2013 08:58 #45576 by Ankha

Minion A goes bleed.
Minion B plays Mask and continues bleed in place of A.
Can minion A go bleed again after that?

Yes. NRA kicks in when the action resolves (successfully or if blocked).

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01 Mar 2013 20:16 #45591 by Pascal Bertrand

Minion A goes bleed.
Minion B plays Mask and continues bleed in place of A.
Can minion A go bleed again after that?

Yes. NRA kicks in when the action resolves (successfully or if blocked).

Correct.

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05 Mar 2013 12:59 - 05 Mar 2013 13:05 #45682 by edminister
I am disappointed by this as a ruling. The card text of mask reveals that the acting minion was never the one originally chosen but in fact was the masked one. The concept of the Mask is that the minion playing it was just assuming the look of the other. The very spirit of the card's design is jeopardized by this ruling.
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05 Mar 2013 13:15 #45683 by Brum
Wake with the Evening's Freshness is a Thaumaturgy Ritual of Level 1.
We have millions of examples of names of cards that are badly represented in card text. Millions because we also have weird "mistakes" with multiple cards, like a riffle being more expensive or harder to get than a motor bike or a jet plane (in the US!).

If you think that cards should have been better named, I agree with you.
Also, vampire pictures where they are in daylight... ;)

But we must remember this: Rulings are about card text and game rules. Not the name, nor the picture, nor the expansion, nor anything else. Just the cardtext and the applying rules.
In that extent, for what is worth, this ruling makes perfect sense to me.

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