Mata Hari & Orun
- Assuming Mata Hari is still independent, can I play an Orun on her?
- Assuming I can, can she have more Orun on her than her capacity?
Name: Mata Hari
Cardtype: Vampire
Clan: Ravnos
Group: 4
Capacity: 7
Discipline: aus for qui CHI OBF
Independent. Red List: Mata Hari has 2 votes (titled). You and she may play cards that require a sect and/or clan as if she were of that required sect and/or clan.
Name: Orun
Cardtype: Master
Master: trifle.
Put this card on a Laibon. For non-Orun cards played by Methuselahs other than this Laibon's controller, this Laibon is considered to have 2 additional capacity. A Laibon gets an additional vote for every three Orun he or she has. If this Laibon successfully bleeds for more than 2 or successfully performs aaction against a non-mortal minion, he or she burns one Orun. Burn this card if this Laibon has more Orun and Aye than his or her capacity.
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Orun does not require a Laibon
Erm, the card text starts with "Put this card on a Laibon."...

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Orun does not require a Laibon
Erm, the card text starts with "Put this card on a Laibon."...
If it was "...that you control" then it might indirectly require a Laibon but probably not in a way that Mata Hari would care about. As it is, you can play Orun on someone else's Laibon even if you don't control one.
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So, "Put this card on a Laibon" seems to be a requirement to me.
The burning part seems to be an effect of the card in play, so unless Mata turns Laibon, it won't trigger.
I'll ask Scott for confirmations.
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Can you play Into the Fire or Out of the Pan on Mata Hari? If yes, then you can play Orun on Mata Hari.





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