file N/A Tye Cooper

22 Jan 2014 15:36 - 22 Jan 2014 15:47 #58770 by Pagan
N/A Tye Cooper was created by Pagan
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22 Jan 2014 18:14 #58776 by Pascal Bertrand
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Defeated by text.

Well, just in case someone is wondering the same thing: No, Tye Cooper can't burn minions in that are not controlled (for instance: vampires or imbueds in the uncontrolled region, crypt, or out-of-play).

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22 Jan 2014 21:42 #58782 by ReverendRevolver
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Can he burn allies that were just recruited this turn, since the rule book says to put them between "torpor" amd the ready region, so you know they cant act until the end of the current turn?
Like, if Slava takes a cog action to recruit garou, returns priority to methuselah whos turn it is, can Tye burn the wolf?

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23 Jan 2014 11:23 #58794 by Pascal Bertrand
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Name: Tye Cooper
[LotN:R]
Cardtype: Ally
Clan: Giovanni
Cost: 3 pool
Unique wraith with 1 life. 0 strength, 1 bleed.
Tye is immune to non-aggravated damage. He may burn a non-ready minion as a (D) action. If that action is successful, you may move a library card from your ash heap to your hand (discard afterward).

Can he burn allies that were just recruited this turn, since the rule book says to put them between "torpor" amd the ready region, so you know they cant act until the end of the current turn?
Like, if Slava takes a cog action to recruit garou, returns priority to methuselah whos turn it is, can Tye burn the wolf?

Rulebook 6.1.5 (Recruit action): "If the [recruit] action is successful, the ally is placed in your uncontrolled region, even though it is controlled, to indicate that it cannot act this turn (and the cost, if any, is paid)."

So, it's in the uncontrolled region, but it is controlled.

Rulebook 1.6.4 (Targets): If a card is played on another card, or selects or chooses or otherwise targets another card, the target card must be in play (i.e., controlled). Vampires in the torpor region are eligible targets by default, but vampires in the uncontrolled region and contested cards are not.

Since the freshly recruited ally is controlled (quoted above) but not ready ( [LSJ 20081229] , it's an eligible target for Tye Cooper.
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23 Jan 2014 18:10 #58806 by ReverendRevolver
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If Tye burns your own newly recruited minion, you can pick it up as the library card from your discard pile, right?

(I may neex to build a kazaars diary deck.)

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24 Jan 2014 08:28 #58811 by Pascal Bertrand
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Name: Khazar's Diary (Endless Night)
[LotN:C]
Cardtype: Action
Clan: Giovanni
+1 stealth action.
Put the Diary in play, or add a counter to one in play. When a unique minion in play is burned, add another counter. While this card has seven or more counters, Giovanni get [NEC] and may take a +1 stealth action to put a minion from any ash heap into play to represent a wraith ally with 2 life, 0 strength, 1 bleed and +1 stealth.

Yes, Tye can burn allies recruited by you the turn you recruit them. And, yes, this would trigger the adding of a counter on Khazar's Diary if the ally was unique.

Following ruling on Third Trad + blood sharing (optional conditional effect), it seems you can indeed move the burned ally to your hand.
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