Member of the Entourage Question
08 Jul 2011 11:33 - 07 Feb 2013 11:17 #6055
by erewego
Member of the Entourage Question was created by erewego
Member of the Entourage
Mortal with 2 life, 0 strength, 0 bleed. This ally cannot take actions. During a
action directed at you, this ally may burn 1 life to get +1 intercept. Burn this ally if he successfully blocks a vampire (no combat occurs).
[DRAFT]:
Mortal with 2 life, 0 strength, 0 bleed. This ally cannot take actions. During a

[DRAFT]:
as above.
Basically, can you burn extra life to get more intercept? Even if it burns him?
Example:
Someone plays Entrancement and attempts to steal a Member of the Entourage at one stealth. Member of the Entourage burns a life to get 1 int to block. Entrancement gets another stealth. Can I burn another life to get another intercept, which burns Member of the Entourage causing the action to fail?
Also, if I have Vagabond Mystic, is there a window in above example to add another life?
Prince of New York,
Adam
Last edit: 07 Feb 2013 11:17 by Pascal Bertrand.
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08 Jul 2011 11:48 #6056
by Pascal Bertrand
With a Member of Entourage having 1 life at the beginning of the action, if it burns 1 life to get +1 intercept in this action, it burns (provided it doesn't gain life in between). If the action was sup' Far Mastery, it fizzles (no cost is paid).
Replied by Pascal Bertrand on topic Re: Member of the Entourage Question
Member of Entourage can burn 1 life to get +1 intercept once per action ("During X do Y" template).Member of the Entourage
Mortal with 2 life, 0 strength, 0 bleed. This ally cannot take actions. During aaction directed at you, this ally may burn 1 life to get +1 intercept. Burn this ally if he successfully blocks a vampire (no combat occurs).
[DRAFT]:as above.
Basically, can you burn extra life to get more intercept? Even if it burns him?
Example:
Someone plays Entrancement and attempts to steal a Member of the Entourage at one stealth. Member of the Entourage burns a life to get 1 int to block. Entrancement gets another stealth. Can I burn another life to get another intercept, which burns Member of the Entourage causing the action to fail?
With a Member of Entourage having 1 life at the beginning of the action, if it burns 1 life to get +1 intercept in this action, it burns (provided it doesn't gain life in between). If the action was sup' Far Mastery, it fizzles (no cost is paid).
If the acting minion plays inf' Crocodile's Tongue, there is a window after burning the life to cancel CT, and before burning a blood for +1 intercept.Also, if I have Vagabond Mystic, is there a window in above example to add another life?
Prince of New York,
Adam
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08 Jul 2011 12:14 #6060
by erewego
Replied by erewego on topic Re: Member of the Entourage Question
Thanks... but why can I only do it once? Wording seems similar to Maris Streck
Camarilla Justicar: Maris can burn a blood to give a blocking minion +1 intercept. She can take a +1 stealth action to allow you to look at and rearrange the top 5 cards of your library.
So if the Member of the Entourage has 3 life (or 4 or 5...) I can't burn more then one life as the stealth is increased?
Camarilla Justicar: Maris can burn a blood to give a blocking minion +1 intercept. She can take a +1 stealth action to allow you to look at and rearrange the top 5 cards of your library.
So if the Member of the Entourage has 3 life (or 4 or 5...) I can't burn more then one life as the stealth is increased?
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08 Jul 2011 12:20 - 08 Jul 2011 12:20 #6061
by Ankha
Replied by Ankha on topic Re: Member of the Entourage Question
Because Maris lacks the "During X do Y" template.
In VTES, this template limits to once per X the use of Y.
In VTES, this template limits to once per X the use of Y.
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08 Jul 2011 12:23 #6062
by Pascal Bertrand
Maris' cardtext doesn't involve "During". Therefore, you can use any number of times to get intercept in an action.
"During X do Y" is a template used in several cards that limits the possibilities of doing X to once per X.
Usual examples: Temptation (it only adds 1 counter per Master Phase), Blood Doll (it doesn't work like Minion Tap), sup' Drawing out the Beast doesn't inflict several damage during the press step, ..
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Wording is slightly different.Thanks... but why can I only do it once? Wording seems similar to Maris Streck
Camarilla Justicar: Maris can burn a blood to give a blocking minion +1 intercept. She can take a +1 stealth action to allow you to look at and rearrange the top 5 cards of your library.
Maris' cardtext doesn't involve "During". Therefore, you can use any number of times to get intercept in an action.
"During X do Y" is a template used in several cards that limits the possibilities of doing X to once per X.
Usual examples: Temptation (it only adds 1 counter per Master Phase), Blood Doll (it doesn't work like Minion Tap), sup' Drawing out the Beast doesn't inflict several damage during the press step, ..
Can't burn more than 1 life to get intercept per its cardtext, correct.So if the Member of the Entourage has 3 life (or 4 or 5...) I can't burn more then one life as the stealth is increased?
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08 Jul 2011 15:26 #6070
by Izaak
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Now that you're the new rules guy can we get Maris Streck her special re-ruled to be no longer broken?

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