file Merged Vamps and Sect changes

03 Feb 2015 21:53 - 03 Feb 2015 22:02 #69048 by 2wayspeaker
What happens when:

[Adv] Petaniqua
[chi]
[AUS]
[DAI]
[DEM]
[OBF]
[THA]
[Baali] Baali
Capacity: 9
Group: 4
Advanced, Independent. Red List: Once each combat, Petaniqua may burn a blood to gain a press. Petaniqua may recruit a werewolf ally as if she meets the requirements of playing that card. +1 strength. Infernal.


And

Petaniqua
[chi]
[AUS]
[DAI]
[DEM]
[OBF]
[THA]
[Malkavian] Malkavian
Capacity: 9
Group: 4
Camarilla. Red List: During any round of combat after the first, a minion opposing Petaniqua takes 2 points of damage before range is determined. Recruiting allies and employing retainers costs Petaniqua 1 less blood or pool. +1 bleed. Infernal.


And

Mozambique Allure
[Action] Action
Requires a ready Laibon or untitled vampire. +1 stealth action.
If this acting vampire is Laibon, move the top card of your crypt to your uncontrolled region. Otherwise, this vampire becomes Laibon, and he or she untaps if he or she is Akunanse, Guruhi, Ishtarri, Osebo, Assamite, Follower of Set, Ravnos, Lasombra, Tzimisce, Harbinger of Skulls, or Salubri antitribu.


interact?
I assume this depends on the order they are played.

PA -> P -> MA = Laibon
P -> PA -> MA = Laibon
P -> MA -> PA = Independant
PA -> MA -> P = Camarilla

Or how should I interpret this?
Also which clan, i suppose Baali in all cases?


Also, If I play MA with an Akunanse Laibon and I move a crypt card do I get the untap or not?
Last edit: 03 Feb 2015 22:02 by 2wayspeaker.

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03 Feb 2015 22:52 #69050 by jamesatzephyr

PA -> P -> MA = Laibon
P -> PA -> MA = Laibon


When the non-Laibon merged vampire plays Mozambique Allure, you become Laibon, yes.

P -> MA -> PA = Independant


The base vampire was Camarilla. It became Laibon by playing MA. Then when it merges, it becomes the sect of the Advanced vampire (Independent), so you end up Independent.

PA -> MA -> P = Camarilla


No. When a vampire merges, the Advanced copy is what takes precedence (or in the Merged text, if that's different again) - the sect on the base version is ignored. In the situation where the Advanced copy is the one already in play, nothing changes, so it stays Laibon from MA.

[LSJ 20090707]

> 1) I control *basic* Kamiri wa Itherero, who has been converted to Anarch by
> an Anarch Convert. I now merge him. What happens to his anarch status?
> (My guess: the card text in the advanced version makes him a Laibon again.)
Correct.

> 2) I control *advanced* Kamiri wa Itherero, Anarch Converted as above.
> I have a basic version of him in my crypt, and I merge him. He should remain
> Anarch, correct?
Correct.


Also which clan, i suppose Baali in all cases?


Yes, in all such cases (e.g. two different clans, two different titles, two different sects), the Advanced one is the relevant one. From the rulebook, 1.5.6:

When merged, the text on the base card still applies, but the rest of the card is ignored (capacity, Disciplines, etc.). The advancement card applies in full. If the advancement card conflictsiconmiscmergedold with the base card (a different sect, for example), the advancement card has precedence.


Also, If I play MA with an Akunanse Laibon and I move a crypt card do I get the untap or not?


No, by card text. If you're Laibon, you do the crypt moving thing. If you're not Laibon (that is, "otherwise"), you do the untap and sect change thing.

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