Re: Vlad Tepes + Regent
07 Mar 2015 12:37 #69724
by jamesatzephyr
Seems so. There's no list of 'allowed' cities anywhere in the game's rules.
Replied by jamesatzephyr on topic Re: Vlad Tepes + Regent
So with the anarch secession ruled by Pascal mean Vlad can play one and become a baron of any city? Even a made up one?
Seems so. There's no list of 'allowed' cities anywhere in the game's rules.
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07 Mar 2015 14:28 #69731
by blackday
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Cool.
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07 Mar 2015 14:43 #69732
by Pascal Bertrand
Replied by Pascal Bertrand on topic Re: Vlad Tepes + Regent
Correct.
So with the anarch secession ruled by Pascal mean Vlad can play one and become a baron of any city? Even a made up one?
Seems so. There's no list of 'allowed' cities anywhere in the game's rules.
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08 Mar 2015 05:59 #69744
by blackday
Replied by blackday on topic Re: Vlad Tepes + Regent
Just so i can explain why Vlad's ability is able to use the kduva mask and the abbot ability,was because that his ability read he may play and use any card that requires a sect/title?
Sorry if im asking about it again. Just wanted to be sure of the reason behind it.
Sorry if im asking about it again. Just wanted to be sure of the reason behind it.
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08 Mar 2015 12:18 - 08 Mar 2015 12:22 #69747
by blackday
Replied by blackday on topic Re: Vlad Tepes + Regent
Also was thinking for vote vlad deck he could play a political card and play both closed session and private audience right? Effectively preventing everybody else from voting.
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08 Mar 2015 14:02 #69751
by jamesatzephyr
First of all, does the card require a sect and/or title? If not, Vlad's special isn't relevant at all.
Then: if Vlad plays it (e.g. plays Parity Shift, plays War Party), the card sees him as meeting the requirement, for the usual play, resolution, and lingering effect. (This is how most other cards that let you play things "as if" something else work.)
However, if a card requires a sect and/or title, Vlad can also use it when it's in play as if he had the sect and/or title.
So:
As a minion card played by Vlad that requires a sect and/or title, Vlad can play the card on himself, meeting the requirements using his special. Because the card requires a Sabbat vampire, Vlad can benefit from it as if he were a Sabbat vampire.
Similarly, Vlad can play LoP as if he met the requirements, using his special. Because it requires a Sabbat vampire to play, he may also use the in-play "call a referendum" effect as if he were a Sabbat vampire, using his special.
Purchase Pact is a master card, so Vlad doesn't play it. So for the purposes of playing Purchase Pact, Vlad's special is irrelevant. However, when a Purchase Pact is in play (yours or anyone else's), it is still a card that requires a title (from the first line). The in-play "call a referendum" effect is something that Vlad does, and since the card requires a title and/or sect, Vlad can use the in-play effect as if he had that title and/or sect. (The "tap this card" effect is used by the Methuselah, not Vlad.)
Powerbase: New York does not require a sect or title, therefore Vlad's special is irrelevant when playing it. The in-play effect requires a Sabbat vampire. However, Vlad can only use cards "as if" he had the sect and/or title if the card requires the sect and/or title. Since PB:NY doesn't require a Sabbat vampire to play it, Vlad can't use it as if he were a Sabbat vampire.
Replied by jamesatzephyr on topic Re: Vlad Tepes + Regent
Just so i can explain why Vlad's ability is able to use the kduva mask and the abbot ability,was because that his ability read he may play and use any card that requires a sect/title?
First of all, does the card require a sect and/or title? If not, Vlad's special isn't relevant at all.
Then: if Vlad plays it (e.g. plays Parity Shift, plays War Party), the card sees him as meeting the requirement, for the usual play, resolution, and lingering effect. (This is how most other cards that let you play things "as if" something else work.)
However, if a card requires a sect and/or title, Vlad can also use it when it's in play as if he had the sect and/or title.
So:
Abbot
+1 stealth action. Requires a Sabbat vampire.
Put this card on this acting Sabbat vampire and untap him or her. This Sabbat vampire gets +1 intercept against actions directed at his or her controller.
+1 stealth action. Requires a Sabbat vampire.
Put this card on this acting Sabbat vampire and untap him or her. This Sabbat vampire gets +1 intercept against actions directed at his or her controller.
As a minion card played by Vlad that requires a sect and/or title, Vlad can play the card on himself, meeting the requirements using his special. Because the card requires a Sabbat vampire, Vlad can benefit from it as if he were a Sabbat vampire.
Legacy of Pander
Political Action
Requires a Sabbat vampire.
If this referendum is successful, put this card in play. Each non-titled Pander has 1 vote. Any Sabbat vampire may call a referendum to burn this card as a +1 stealth political action.
Political Action
Requires a Sabbat vampire.
If this referendum is successful, put this card in play. Each non-titled Pander has 1 vote. Any Sabbat vampire may call a referendum to burn this card as a +1 stealth political action.
Similarly, Vlad can play LoP as if he met the requirements, using his special. Because it requires a Sabbat vampire to play, he may also use the in-play "call a referendum" effect as if he were a Sabbat vampire, using his special.
Purchase Pact, Master
Requires a ready archbishop, priscus, cardinal or regent.
Put this card into play. When a Sabbat vampire you control is in combat with another Sabbat vampire, you may tap this card before range is determined to end combat. Any titled Sabbat vampire may call a referendum to burn this card as a +1 stealth political action.
Requires a ready archbishop, priscus, cardinal or regent.
Put this card into play. When a Sabbat vampire you control is in combat with another Sabbat vampire, you may tap this card before range is determined to end combat. Any titled Sabbat vampire may call a referendum to burn this card as a +1 stealth political action.
Purchase Pact is a master card, so Vlad doesn't play it. So for the purposes of playing Purchase Pact, Vlad's special is irrelevant. However, when a Purchase Pact is in play (yours or anyone else's), it is still a card that requires a title (from the first line). The in-play "call a referendum" effect is something that Vlad does, and since the card requires a title and/or sect, Vlad can use the in-play effect as if he had that title and/or sect. (The "tap this card" effect is used by the Methuselah, not Vlad.)
Powerbase: New York
Master: unique location.
Requires: nothing.
As a master phase action, you may burn 1 pool to move 3 blood counters from the blood bank to this card or move 1 blood counter from this card to your pool. Any Sabbat vampire controlled by another Methuselah can take a action to move all the blood on the 'base to his or her controller's blood pool.
Master: unique location.
Requires: nothing.
As a master phase action, you may burn 1 pool to move 3 blood counters from the blood bank to this card or move 1 blood counter from this card to your pool. Any Sabbat vampire controlled by another Methuselah can take a action to move all the blood on the 'base to his or her controller's blood pool.
Powerbase: New York does not require a sect or title, therefore Vlad's special is irrelevant when playing it. The in-play effect requires a Sabbat vampire. However, Vlad can only use cards "as if" he had the sect and/or title if the card requires the sect and/or title. Since PB:NY doesn't require a Sabbat vampire to play it, Vlad can't use it as if he were a Sabbat vampire.
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