Re: lutz ruling

Hi can I have an official ruling pls?
Situation:
Lutz calls con agg.
Prey: 2 pool, grand prey: 2 pool
terms are 2-1-1 (last one for some1 with lots of pool)
What happens?
Who get ousted, how many points of damage are dealt to who? Is it possible to double oust with the same action like this?

Lutz von Hohenzollern wrote: Camarilla Malkavian Inner Circle: While Lutz is ready, your prey burns a pool each time the referendum of a political action passes. +2 bleed.

Conservative Agitation wrote: Allocate X points among two or more Methuselahs, where X is the number of Methuselahs in the game. Successful referendum means each Methuselah burns 1 pool for each point assigned.

In your example, your prey (player A) and your grandprey (player B) are on 2 pool each, and there are two more players (C and you).
You call Conservative Agitation, and assign 2 points on A, 1 on B and 1 on C.

What happens when the vote passes successfully, is this: A burns a total of 3 pool and is ousted. B and C each burn 1 pool.

If you assign at least 1 point on A, A will always be ousted, due to Lutz' special. If in addition you assign at least 2 points on B, B will also be ousted, but since she is A's prey, A will get the VP for this oust (but not 6 pool).

The special on Lutz triggers after the resolution of the vote.


Your prey (player A) and your grandprey (player B) are on 2 pool each, and there are two more players (C and you). You call Conservative Agitation, and assign 2 points on A, 1 on B and 1 on C.

What happens when the vote passes successfully, is this:
- A burns a total of 2 pool and is ousted. B and C each burn 1 pool.
- Then AFTER the vote resolution the special effect on Lutz triggers, and B is ousted. (So you will get two oust in a row, two VPs and total of 12 pools. Hooray!)



https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/rec.games.trading-cards.jyhad/ka988PKEpQU

https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/rec.games.trading-cards.jyhad/rSaiVPMbpvY

Correct answers from dessu and Hakuron.

How can they both be correct when they give contradicting answers?

Boris The Blade wrote: How can they both be correct when they give contradicting answers?

Sorry, I read Hakuron's message a bit too hastily.

First, apply the terms of the referendum. Then, apply Lutz's ability.