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16 Sep 2015 08:39 #73154 by Bloodartist

projectile clarification was created by Bloodartist

Since projectile has somewhat ambiguous wording I have to ask:
if played at superior, can the additional strike be dodged or not?

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16 Sep 2015 11:37 #73155 by jamesatzephyr

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Bloodartist wrote:
Since projectile has somewhat ambiguous wording I have to ask:
if played at superior, can the additional strike be dodged or not?

Any additional strike you go on to perform isn't "this strike", which refers only to a single strike.

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16 Sep 2015 18:48 - 16 Sep 2015 18:48 #73160 by Bloodartist

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jamesatzephyr wrote:

Bloodartist wrote:
Since projectile has somewhat ambiguous wording I have to ask:
if played at superior, can the additional strike be dodged or not?

Any additional strike you go on to perform isn't "this strike", which refers only to a single strike.

I expected a bit more clearer 'no'.. That was a 'no, it can be dodged', right? In my opinion "as above with an additional strike" could be interpreted that the additional strike is a full copy of the first part, and so non-dodgable, but apparently the wording is literal and taken as such. I'm fine with this. I had to ask though, since I have come across plenty of situations in other games where cards have been errata'ed according to the intention of the card designer and thus the wording is not taken literally.

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17 Sep 2015 03:52 - 17 Sep 2015 03:57 #73164 by Ankha

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Bloodartist wrote:

jamesatzephyr wrote:

Bloodartist wrote:
Since projectile has somewhat ambiguous wording I have to ask:
if played at superior, can the additional strike be dodged or not?

Any additional strike you go on to perform isn't "this strike", which refers only to a single strike.

I expected a bit more clearer 'no'.. That was a 'no, it can be dodged', right?

Correct. James' answer explains why it is so, which is more useful than a plain "no".

Bloodartist wrote:
In my opinion "as above with an additional strike" could be interpreted that the additional strike is a full copy of the first part,

It is. Superior could be read:

Strike: 1R damage or use a ranged weapon strike. This strike cannot be dodged. This vampire gains an additional strike.

Bloodartist wrote:
and so non-dodgable, but apparently the wording is literal and taken as such. I'm fine with this. I had to ask though, since I have come across plenty of situations in other games where cards have been errata'ed according to the intention of the card designer and thus the wording is not taken literally.

Yes, the wording is litteral. Don't forget also to check the official card text of cards:
www.vekn.net/index.php/card-lists

rather than the Secret Library for instance that might not be up-to-date.

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