file Ambush vs Shalmath

27 Oct 2015 10:15 #73886 by Blooded Sand
Smudge rushes shalmath, currently tapped, with Ambush. Shalmath uses his untap special to untap. The action fails due to no valid target, correct?

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27 Oct 2015 10:30 #73887 by cordovader
Replied by cordovader on topic Re: Ambush vs Shalmath

Smudge rushes shalmath, currently tapped, with Ambush. Shalmath uses his untap special to untap. The action fails due to no valid target, correct?


I would say correct. The action fizzles due to no legal target.

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27 Oct 2015 12:59 #73888 by Blooded Sand
Replied by Blooded Sand on topic Re: Ambush vs Shalmath
here is the official ruling
tinyurl.com/AmbushUntap

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27 Oct 2015 13:46 #73889 by jamesatzephyr

Smudge rushes shalmath, currently tapped, with Ambush. Shalmath uses his untap special to untap. The action fails due to no valid target, correct?


I would say correct. The action fizzles due to no legal target.


You're both slightly wrong.

The action is successful - that is, it reached resolution without being blocked. Then it fizzles due to the target no longer being valid. I wrote this up over here: www.vekn.net/forum/6-rules-questions/54171-losing-blood-during-an-action#54175 It has one exciting consequence - you can still play cards and effects that rely on an action being successful.

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So, back to the example bleed above, yeah, the action would fizzle, but
(assuming it reaches resolution unblocked) it is still successful (by definition
of "successful action", namely: resolves unblocked).

So you could still play Freak Drive at normal Fortitude to untap after a
successful action that fizzles at resolution.

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