Form of mist from torpor

LSJ wrote:

> Can we get a rundown of everything not listed above and
> some examples then please?

The complete list for actions is just: absence of something required.
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For example:

Absence of sufficient blood/life/pool to pay cost
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Absence of legal target (cf. Ambush/Harass thread)
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Absence of required card in play
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Absence of required card from the hand
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Absence of ready acting minion (when required)
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For more details, Google "fizzle OR fizzles author:LSJ"

Catatonic Fear doesn't fizzle when Psyche!d, it still resolved
successfully (and ended combat). The "and something else" of
"end combat and something else" is the part that is lost when
combat doesn't end or another is started, which might be
called "fizzling" in regards to that effect, I guess.

There seems to be a problem with that list: the first 4 effects are only checked at action resolution, whereas not being ready stops the action right away. They are not the same thing.

Ankha wrote:

The same way you check that you're not down at 0 pool during combat.
If you play DI on that Immortal Grapple and its ousts you, do you continue the combat? No.

The two are not comparable. Being ousted prevents you from playing or being affected by any other effect (except Life Boon). The point is not that another effect cannot un-oust you, it is that the effect cannot happen at all.

Besides, regarding actions, there is precedent of fizzling causes being checked just in time (i.e.: at resolution). There is no need to check whether the vampire is still able to continue the action until he actually tries to do so, and that is after the end of combat.

Maybe that is clearer using Momentary Delay instead of Form of Mist:

Momentary Delay

[Action Modifier] Action Modifier

Requires a vampire with capacity 7 or more.
Only usable at the end of an action blocked by an ally or a vampire of capacity 5 or less (after any combats). Not usable if more than one round of combat has occurred nor if this vampire has lost 3 or more blood this action or ended combat before the press step. The action continues as if unblocked.

Cock Robin attempts an action, gets pinged for 1 and disarmed for some reason, and still during the combat, its controller uses Warsaw Station to get him out. At that point Cock is ready, and he is still the acting vampire: even without the Warsaw Station, he would have been able to play a Freak Drive at after combat ends. Now comes the end of the combat. Why would he be unable to play Momentary Delay? There was not even an action to fizzle when he went to torpor since the action had already been unsuccessfully resolved.