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16 Nov 2015 13:40 #74318 by Jesper
What happens if I play the 3. Ashur tablets and takes a crypt card in hand?

If its an imbued, can I use piper to recruit him?

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Ashur tablets
Master
Put this card in play. If you have three copies in play, remove all copies in play (even controlled by other Methuselahs) from the game to gain 3 pool and choose up to thirteen cards from your ash heap. Move one of those cards to your hand and shuffle the others into your library.

Piper
Master. Requires a ready anarch.
A ready untapped anarch you control employs or recruits a retainer or ally from your hand (requirements and cost apply as normal). This is not an action and cannot be blocked. Tap that anarch.

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16 Nov 2015 14:55 - 16 Nov 2015 15:07 #74321 by Ankha
You can't move crypt cards to your hand.

groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/vtes-rules/conversations/topics/233

Bartłomiej veyDer Rudzki wrote:
> What happens if I have an Imbued in my ash heap and I play the
> outferior Resurrection on him? Is it placed in my hand? Can I recruit
> him with my minions?

You can't move him to your hand.

Even though he is an ally, crypt cards cannot be placed into your hand (nor into
your library).

The only things that can hold both crypt and library cards are the controlled
and uncontrolled regions (and the "out of play" region, if you want to get nuts
about it).


There must also be a reference somewhere in the rules or rulings.

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17 Nov 2015 12:19 #74349 by Jesper
Iv look though the rules again and again and I cant find anything about crypt cards in your hand.

Also we do have precedence fro crypt card being e.g. in your uncontrolled area.

This actully brings me to another question. Do an Embrace, which have been made a vampire still be a vampire in ash heap?

E.g. can I tak a burned Embrace from the ash heap to my hand ??

/Jesper

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17 Nov 2015 12:27 #74351 by Pascal Bertrand

Iv look though the rules again and again and I cant find anything about crypt cards in your hand.

Also we do have precedence fro crypt card being e.g. in your uncontrolled area.

This actully brings me to another question. Do an Embrace, which have been made a vampire still be a vampire in ash heap?

It's a library card in the ash heap. [LSJ 20010731]

E.g. can I tak a burned Embrace from the ash heap to my hand ??

/Jesper

Via a card that does that (Sargon Fragment, Ashur's Tablets, Carlotta, ..), yes.

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17 Nov 2015 23:25 #74359 by Squidalot

You can't move crypt cards to your hand.

groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/vtes-rules/conversations/topics/233

Bartłomiej veyDer Rudzki wrote:
> What happens if I have an Imbued in my ash heap and I play the
> outferior Resurrection on him? Is it placed in my hand? Can I recruit
> him with my minions?

You can't move him to your hand.

Even though he is an ally, crypt cards cannot be placed into your hand (nor into
your library).

The only things that can hold both crypt and library cards are the controlled
and uncontrolled regions (and the "out of play" region, if you want to get nuts
about it).


There must also be a reference somewhere in the rules or rulings.


no reference in the rules/rulings that we could find [with years of lets break VTES] - please can we add it into the rules [it's fundamental]
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