Q: NRA PAC, No Confidence

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17 Feb 2016 13:39 #75475 by PetriWessman

Q: NRA PAC, No Confidence was created by PetriWessman

Two (unrelated) rules questions.

1) If NRA PAC is played, does it affect equip actions done during the player's (current) turn? In other words, if player A equips minion B with something and plays NRA PAC during discard, does B untap? I think the answer is "no", but would like confirmation.

2) No Confidence states "loses the benefit of his or her title". Does that mean that the vampire still has the title, but it has no effect, or does it mean that the title is effectively gone (for as long as No Confidence x 2 is on that vampire? In other words, is the target vampire still considered to be a "titled vampire", and can it be targeted by effects that only work against titled vampires (or the specific title in question)?

Card texts:

NRA PAC
[Event]
Government.
Any minion who successfully performs an equip action untaps at the end of the turn.

No Confidence
[Action Modifier]
Play after resolving a successful action that requires an anarch.
Put this card on a titled non-anarch vampire controlled by the target of the action (or by your predator or prey if the action is undirected). A vampire with two No Confidence cards loses the benefit of his or her title. Burn this card if this acting vampire leaves the ready region.

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17 Feb 2016 16:30 #75478 by Ankha

Replied by Ankha on topic Q: NRA PAC, No Confidence

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LSJ wrote:
witness1 wrote:
> There was a question about this at yesterday's tournament.
>
> On the turn when NRA PAC is put into play, do minions that performed
> equip actions earlier in that same turn untap at the end of that turn?
> My thought was that it would only trigger on equip actions performed
> while it was in play.
No. "performs" not "performed"

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lsj wrote:
> I'd like to have a confirmation about the card "No Confidence" and the
> effects on the game of "losing the benefits of one's title" (compared
> to "losing one's title").
"losing the benefit" happens, for example, when one changes to a sect
inappropriate for a title. (See section 10).

> I am pretty sure that, for example Marcel de Breau (Archbishop of
> Paris) with 2 No Confidence cards does not have 2 votes from his title
> and cannot play cards such as Eternal Vigilance.
Correct, just as if he changed to a sect inappropriate for.

> Can he play a Templar or a Red List card (wich require a Titled
> vampire and not specifically an Archbishop) ?
No, just as if he changed to a sect inappropriate for thhe title.

> Does he contest a merged Dominique's Baron of Paris title ?
He yields immediately instead, just as if...

> Does Count Germaine advanced (+2 bleed when bleeding a titled non
> Independent vampire) still gets his bleed bonus when bleeding Marcel's
> controller ?
No, just as if Marcel had changed to a sect inappropriate for his title.