file Summon History and Eccentric Billionaire

22 Mar 2016 09:29 #76066 by jamesatzephyr

I just spotted the "regular strike" expression.
What in Guiness name is a regular strike?


An unmodified strike, using the default strength.

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A "regular strike" is unmodified, so would use the default strength [LSJ 20020821]

So ignore things like a vampire's strength or special ability. (Or special disability, like Blythe Candeleria.)
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22 Mar 2016 09:44 - 22 Mar 2016 09:53 #76067 by jamesatzephyr

Imo it won't work. Bilionere reduces cost of cards that are played. When using SH you are not "playing" equipment cards but "putting them into play". It is a big difference.


[LSJ 20080706]

Petri Wessman wrote:
> Two related questions: first off, can I use Powerbase Tswane or
> Eccentric Billionaire to reduce the cost of equipment I retrieve from
> my own ash heap via Kiss of Lachesis? Both say that they reduce the
> cost of a card I play by one, so does Kiss of Lachesis count for that?
Kiss counts that, yeah.

> If yes to above, how does the reduction work? Is the original cost
> reduced (and then halved by Lachesis) or is the halved cost reduced by
> one?
RTR 7/7/7:
All cost-affecting cards operate no matter how the card is played ("as normal"
or otherwise). All multiplication and division is handled first, followed by
addition and subtraction.



Kiss of Lachesis also doesn't play the card:
Move a non-unique equipment card from any Methuselah's ash heap to this vampire. If the equipment card comes from your ash heap, pay half the cost (round down), otherwise no cost is paid.


A potential glitch here is that you're not actually paying the cost of the card (as you are in many other cases) so much as taking the cost and 'copying' it to another card. Although there's little to say that a vampire can't reduce the cost of a card that they're not going to pay - say, something unlikely like burning counters off Masochism on Dragos in order to use them up to stop someone else using them when they get control of Dragos.
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