Enkidu, the Noah & Fast Hands / Shackles of Enkidu
part of his special.He cannot have or use equipment.
Can he play Fast Hands? If yes, what would happen?
Another question: What would happen if Enkidu was in combat with a minion having the Shackles of Enkidu. Could that minion put the Shackles on Enkidu? Again, if yes, what would happen?
Name: Enkidu, The Noah
Cardtype: Vampire
Clan: Gangrel antitribu
Group: 4
Capacity: 11
Discipline: for ANI CEL OBF POT PRO
Sabbat. Red List: Enkidu can enter combat with any minion as aaction. If Enkidu successfully performs an action to employ a retainer, he untaps at the end of the turn. He cannot have or use equipment. +2 strength.
Name: Fast Hands
Cardtype: Combat
Cost: 1 blood
Discipline: Celerity
[cel] Strike: steal weapon.
[CEL] Strike: steal weapon with first strike.
Name: Shackles of Enkidu
Cardtype: Equipment
Clan: Gangrel
Cost: 2 pool
Unique equipment.
Before range is chosen in a round of combat, you may put the Shackles on any minion opposing the vampire with this card; you still controls this card, however. Combat ends. The Shackled minion does not untap as normal during his or her untap phases; he or she burns 2 blood during each of your untap phases. Any minion may burn this card as aaction.
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For the same reason, you can't put equipment on him (such as Shackles of Enkidu).
Generally speaking, you can't do illegal things or things that would result in an illegal situation voluntarily.
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Another question: What would happen if Enkidu was in combat with a minion having the Shackles of Enkidu.
Both players would be ousted in short order by the player to their right.
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Another question: What would happen if Enkidu was in combat with a minion having the Shackles of Enkidu.
Both players would be ousted in short order by the player to their right.
You never used an Inner Circle wall and bleed deck with Alastor on other's Camarillas to put Shackles on them???
If your guys are infernal, Shackles only burn blood on them, right?

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Because after Enkidu leave torpor him be controled this equipment.
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You can strike with a Rowan ring, and send Enkidu to torpor, but then the ring is burned as it cannot be moved to Enkidu.Perhaps this means that Wooden stake and Rowan ring cannot sent Enkidu to torpor?
Because after Enkidu leave torpor him be controled this equipment.
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>>And, if Tariq rushes Beast, plays some funky stuff, then slaps with
>>the Rowan Ring
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>>a) Strike declared illegal
>>b) Strike OK, but ring is burned, and has no effect
>>c) Strike OK, ring is burned, but it's text triggers first (sending
>>Beast to torpor)
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> C. Card text "send the opposing vampire in torpor" applies. But when "this
> card is transfered to the opposing vampire", it burns.
Correct.
The difference between the Shackles and the Rowan Ring is that the former is an effect to move equipment (illegal on Enkidu), the later is a strike to send to torpor (legal on Enkidu) with a side-effect that happens only if the strike is successful.
The real difference is that Kiss of Ra has an explicit restriction
prohibiting its use, whereas Wstake has an additional effect that
occurs only when certain conditions are met. When those conditions
are met, the additional effect is not optional. And, since it
is not allowable, the card is burned.
(replace Wooden Stake with Rowan Ring)
Name: Rowan Ring
Cardtype: Equipment
Cost: 1 pool
Unique melee weapon.
Strike: Send the opposing vampire to torpor. This card is transferred to that vampire, and he or she doesn't untap as normal during the untap phase as long as he or she remains in torpor.
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