Enkidu, the Noah & Fast Hands / Shackles of Enkidu

well it is now clear,rowan and stake can use against enkidu and beast to sent both to torpor,and after strike resolve both be sent to torpor and both free to untap because rowan and stake be burned after sent them to torpor.
1 interesting question:what hapen if oposing vampire after strike resolve play amaranth?
does rowan and stake be burned or oposing vampire take this weapon?

beslin wrote:

well it is now clear,rowan and stake can use against enkidu and beast to sent both to torpor,and after strike resolve both be sent to torpor and both free to untap because rowan and stake be burned after sent them to torpor.

No, they are not free to untap - the 'do not untap' effect is independent of the 'transfer equipment' effect.

1 interesting question:what hapen if oposing vampire after strike resolve play amaranth?
does rowan and stake be burned or oposing vampire take this weapon?

The card effects resolve atomically, so when amaranth is played the weapon has already been transfered and burned.

skimflux wrote:

beslin wrote:

well it is now clear,rowan and stake can use against enkidu and beast to sent both to torpor,and after strike resolve both be sent to torpor and both free to untap because rowan and stake be burned after sent them to torpor.

No, they are not free to untap - the 'do not untap' effect is independent of the 'transfer equipment' effect.

im not sure,if i good understand read from this link: groups.google.com/forum/#!msg/rec.games.trading-cards.jyhad/Za8AS17xXPM/Ttki0DplaeYJ

>>>The reason that a Stake paralyzes, (or that a Wooden Stake keeps you from
untapping while in torpor), is that it is stuck through your heart.
Remove the stake, and the vampire is free again.

I would ask anyone who knows for sure that the answer to this question: can Enkidu untap normal after him be sent to torpor with Stake and Rowan or not? i thonk because equipment be burned him free to untap but SKIMFLUX think diferent