Mistress Fanchon's special
12 Apr 2017 00:02 #81441
by mjvtes521
Mistress Fanchon's special was created by mjvtes521
Does Mistress Fanchon's controller need to reveal to other players which minion card she pulled from her controller's library? It doesn't say she does, but how are other players supposed to know whether her controller pulled a minion card rather than a master or event card? Her ability just seems to be begging people to cheat. Sibyl's Tongue explicitly says that you must reveal it to others. Really her ability needs to be changed to require that you show others which card she pulled from library. But I'm wondering if there is some ruling already that I don't know about. Can I get a ruling?
Mistress Fanchon
Tremere
Capacity: 11
Group: 4
Camarilla Tremere Inner Circle: Mistress Fanchon may search your library (shuffle afterward) for any minion card and move that card to your hand as a +1 stealth action. +2 bleed.
Sibyl's Tongue
[Action] Action
[Malkavian antitribu] Malkavian antitribu
[X Blood]
+1 stealth action.
This action costs X blood, where X is the number of Sibyl's Tongues in your ash heap. Choose a card by name. Search your library for a copy of that card, show it to all players, and move it to your hand. Discard down to your hand size and shuffle your library afterward.
Mistress Fanchon
Tremere
Capacity: 11
Group: 4
Camarilla Tremere Inner Circle: Mistress Fanchon may search your library (shuffle afterward) for any minion card and move that card to your hand as a +1 stealth action. +2 bleed.
Sibyl's Tongue
[Action] Action
[Malkavian antitribu] Malkavian antitribu
[X Blood]
+1 stealth action.
This action costs X blood, where X is the number of Sibyl's Tongues in your ash heap. Choose a card by name. Search your library for a copy of that card, show it to all players, and move it to your hand. Discard down to your hand size and shuffle your library afterward.
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12 Apr 2017 05:52 #81446
by cordovader
Replied by cordovader on topic Mistress Fanchon's special
You can always call a judge or play with people that do not cheat.
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12 Apr 2017 06:51 #81447
by Ankha
Replied by Ankha on topic Mistress Fanchon's special
Correct. The card must not be revealed.You can always call a judge or play with people that do not cheat.
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12 Apr 2017 11:30 - 12 Apr 2017 11:31 #81449
by Boris The Blade
Replied by Boris The Blade on topic Mistress Fanchon's special
Who said anything about cheating? Honest mistakes happen, and it is quite easy to make one on this effect. Can you even guarantee that you never did it yourself, since nobody ever double-checked your play?
Last edit: 12 Apr 2017 11:31 by Boris The Blade.
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12 Apr 2017 12:12 #81450
by Ankha
Replied by Ankha on topic Mistress Fanchon's special
It would be strange not to have anyone around that can justify that the card is a minion card. You can also ask the player "it's a minion card, right?" if you want to be sure.Who said anything about cheating? Honest mistakes happen, and it is quite easy to make one on this effect. Can you even guarantee that you never did it yourself, since nobody ever double-checked your play?
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12 Apr 2017 19:18 #81456
by mjvtes521
When you are playing on Lackey, you don't have someone to justify the card is a minion card. This is where the discussion came up that prompted me to ask here.
Replied by mjvtes521 on topic Mistress Fanchon's special
It would be strange not to have anyone around that can justify that the card is a minion card. You can also ask the player "it's a minion card, right?" if you want to be sure.Who said anything about cheating? Honest mistakes happen, and it is quite easy to make one on this effect. Can you even guarantee that you never did it yourself, since nobody ever double-checked your play?
When you are playing on Lackey, you don't have someone to justify the card is a minion card. This is where the discussion came up that prompted me to ask here.
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