file Question about Inceptor

26 Oct 2018 18:05 #91518 by Sorrow
Inceptor
Unique Master
Put this card on a vampire of capacity 1, and put three cards from
your hand, ash heap or library on this card, face up but out of
play.This vampire may play other copies of these cards as if he or she
had the Discipline required (if any) at superior.

Are masters allowed as one of those three cards? The text says "This vampire may play other copies of these cards" but a master card isn't one that a vampire can play. But then it includes the word "may" which indicates that the vampire needn't play that card. But does that include cards that the vampire definitely cannot play? It seems like there is some ambiguity there and I can see how it could go either way.

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26 Oct 2018 18:21 #91519 by brandonsantacruz
Yes, any card can go on inceptor, which could mean you remove Giant's Blood from your deck because it has been played, Unmasking, etc.

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26 Oct 2018 18:27 #91520 by jamesatzephyr

Are masters allowed as one of those three cards?


Any library card would be fine for the "put three cards" text. That doesn't mean it goes on to work...

The text says "This vampire may play other copies of these cards" but a master card isn't one that a vampire can play.


It isn't. Ditto, they can't play Events. Ditto, they can't play Parity Shift because they don't meet the requirements of being a Prince or Justicar, so they can't play that (unless you actually made them a Prince or Justicar and then it's irrelevant anyway). If the minion card has a sect requirement (e.g. Anarch), it won't fake that either.

The card can be played as if the Inceptor had the discipline, if any - but that's the only rule it breaks, under the Golden Rule of Cards. So you still need to be able to meet all the other requirements on how to play it.

But then it includes the word "may" which indicates that the vampire needn't play that card. But does that include cards that the vampire definitely cannot play?


There's nothing stopping you putting cards on it, as it just says "three cards". So 99% of the time that will be a waste, and you're likely to want to put cards requiring disciplines on it to get that benefit.
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27 Oct 2020 16:14 #100988 by Rémi
Replied by Rémi on topic Question about Inceptor
Dear all,

I prefer to continue that thread for one more easy question about Inceptor.
Do the three cards that have been placed face up go the the ash heap if Inceptor if burnt?

Full card text:
Put this card on a vampire of capacity 1, and put three cards from your hand, ash heap or library on this card, face up but out of play. This vampire may play other copies of these cards as if he or she had the Discipline required (if any) at superior.


Thanks in advance,
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27 Oct 2020 16:22 - 27 Oct 2020 16:22 #100989 by Ankha
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Do the three cards that have been placed face up go the the ash heap if Inceptor if burnt?

They are burned:

groups.google.com/g/rec.games.trading-cards.jyhad/c/6rqhybcysh8/m/hU-qIp2on-YJ

If a card leaves play, the cards on/under it are burned.


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03 Sep 2022 00:01 #106251 by Mikl
Replied by Mikl on topic Question about Inceptor
Hello,

The card is a bit ambiguous

[...] and put three cards from
your hand, ash heap or library on this card, [...]

For the library part : are cards drawn from top of your library, or search in the library . Neither "top card" or "search your livbrary" working is used ?

Basically, we are choosing in the hand or we are searching simsheery

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