Mercy (an idea to avoid self-ousting)
29 Feb 2020 18:28 #99102
by jamesatzephyr
Life Boon not required. Dementation back-ousting wins 2-1-1-1-0. This would turn it into 1.5-1.5-1-1-0.
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There would have to be some serious Life Boon-shenanigans for one player to be in the headsup and NOT be able to snag a GW with 1.5VP
Life Boon not required. Dementation back-ousting wins 2-1-1-1-0. This would turn it into 1.5-1.5-1-1-0.
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29 Feb 2020 19:04 #99103
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How should the suggested Mercy rule and Life Boon lead to a result like "1.5 - 1.5 - 1 - 1 - 0"?
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Replied by Hakuron on topic Mercy (an idea to avoid self-ousting)
To be honest, I do not understand what you mean.
There would have to be some serious Life Boon-shenanigans for one player to be in the headsup and NOT be able to snag a GW with 1.5VP
Life Boon not required. Dementation back-ousting wins 2-1-1-1-0. This would turn it into 1.5-1.5-1-1-0.
How should the suggested Mercy rule and Life Boon lead to a result like "1.5 - 1.5 - 1 - 1 - 0"?
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01 Mar 2020 00:12 #99106
by jamesatzephyr
Dementation has a card called Kindred Spirits. It allows you to bleed any Methuselah, and because it is in Dementation (i.e. a bleed heavy discipline) it can be used to bleed other Methuselahs very hard. Some players use this to back oust their predator repeatedly. This results in them reaching the heads-up with 0VP, because... Five players on a tableL A, B, C, D, E. A back-ousts E. D has 1VP. A back-ousts D. C has 1 VP. A back-ousts C. B has 1 VP.
Were A to gain 1.5VP at that point, they wouldn't get the game win.
Um, the bit where I said "Life Boon not required" was a big hint that I wasn't talking about Life Boon because - as I say - it's not required. The claim was that Life Boon-style shenanigans were required to get into a situation where 1.5VP won't give you the game win. I was pointing out that this isn't the case.
Replied by jamesatzephyr on topic Mercy (an idea to avoid self-ousting)
To be honest, I do not understand what you mean.
There would have to be some serious Life Boon-shenanigans for one player to be in the headsup and NOT be able to snag a GW with 1.5VP
Life Boon not required. Dementation back-ousting wins 2-1-1-1-0. This would turn it into 1.5-1.5-1-1-0.
Dementation has a card called Kindred Spirits. It allows you to bleed any Methuselah, and because it is in Dementation (i.e. a bleed heavy discipline) it can be used to bleed other Methuselahs very hard. Some players use this to back oust their predator repeatedly. This results in them reaching the heads-up with 0VP, because... Five players on a tableL A, B, C, D, E. A back-ousts E. D has 1VP. A back-ousts D. C has 1 VP. A back-ousts C. B has 1 VP.
Were A to gain 1.5VP at that point, they wouldn't get the game win.
How should the suggested Mercy rule and Life Boon lead to a result like "1.5 - 1.5 - 1 - 1 - 0"?
Um, the bit where I said "Life Boon not required" was a big hint that I wasn't talking about Life Boon because - as I say - it's not required. The claim was that Life Boon-style shenanigans were required to get into a situation where 1.5VP won't give you the game win. I was pointing out that this isn't the case.
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01 Mar 2020 10:23 #99111
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jamesatzephyr you can ask for Mercy only if another player get GW with this +1,5 VP,if exist any source to him dont get GW you cannot ask for Mercy,that must be clear!!!!
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01 Mar 2020 12:39 #99115
by jamesatzephyr
But!!!!! Oko!!!! Was!!!! Talking!!!! About!!!! Whether!!!! That!!!! Could!!!! Ever!!!! Not!!!! Be!!!! The!!!! Case!!!! Without!!!! Life!!!! Boon!!! Which!!!!! It!!!! Can!!!!! Which!!!!! Is!!!!! What!!!!! I!!!!!1 Replied!!!!! To!!!!!!
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jamesatzephyr you can ask for Mercy only if another player get GW with this +1,5 VP,if exist any source to him dont get GW you cannot ask for Mercy,that must be clear!!!!
But!!!!! Oko!!!! Was!!!! Talking!!!! About!!!! Whether!!!! That!!!! Could!!!! Ever!!!! Not!!!! Be!!!! The!!!! Case!!!! Without!!!! Life!!!! Boon!!! Which!!!!! It!!!! Can!!!!! Which!!!!! Is!!!!! What!!!!! I!!!!!1 Replied!!!!! To!!!!!!
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