Outside the hourglass
10 Sep 2019 14:08 #96900
by self biased
Outside the hourglass was created by self biased
hola amigo, no hablo español, así que esto se está ejecutando a través de google translate.
En primer lugar, siempre proporcione el texto de la tarjeta:
A diferencia de Weather Control, la tarjeta no dice que el daño no se puede evitar, por lo que puede evitar el daño infligido por Outside the Hourglass.
En primer lugar, siempre proporcione el texto de la tarjeta:
Outside the Hourglass
Combat
odf: Strike: dodge.
tem: Maneuver, or strike: dodge, with an optional maneuver.
TEM: Only usable before range is determined. Inflict 2 damage on the opposing minion. A vampire can play only one Outside the Hourglass at superior each round.
A diferencia de Weather Control, la tarjeta no dice que el daño no se puede evitar, por lo que puede evitar el daño infligido por Outside the Hourglass.
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10 Sep 2019 15:01 - 10 Sep 2019 15:05 #96901
by Damnans
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Replied by Damnans on topic Outside the hourglass
The question that was raised in the Spanish WhatsApp group is this:
Can the damage from Outside the Hourglass (played first by the acting vampire) be prevented by superior Horrid Form (played afterward)?
Name: Horrid Form
[Sabbat:U, SW:PT, Third:U/PTz2, SP:DoF4]
Cardtype: Combat
Cost: 1 blood
Discipline: Vicissitude
Only usable before range is determined.
[vic] This vampire gets +1 strength this combat.
[VIC] As above, and this vampire can prevent 1 damage each round.
Artist: Craig Maher
Can the damage from Outside the Hourglass (played first by the acting vampire) be prevented by superior Horrid Form (played afterward)?
Name: Horrid Form
[Sabbat:U, SW:PT, Third:U/PTz2, SP:DoF4]
Cardtype: Combat
Cost: 1 blood
Discipline: Vicissitude
Only usable before range is determined.
[vic] This vampire gets +1 strength this combat.
[VIC] As above, and this vampire can prevent 1 damage each round.
Artist: Craig Maher
V:EKN Website Coordinator
Last edit: 10 Sep 2019 15:05 by Damnans.
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10 Sep 2019 15:42 #96904
by Hakuron
Player A has the impulse and plays OtH sup. Player B does not have the impulse and could prevent the damage by OtH only with combat cards plainly reading "prevent x damage" (since it is not a strike).
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Replied by Hakuron on topic Outside the hourglass
If I (finally) understood the whole thing with "impulse" and "before range is determined" effects, then the answer is no.Can the damage from Outside the Hourglass (played first by the acting vampire) be prevented by superior Horrid Form (played afterward)?
Name: Horrid Form
[Sabbat:U, SW:PT, Third:U/PTz2, SP:DoF4]
Cardtype: Combat
Cost: 1 blood
Discipline: Vicissitude
Only usable before range is determined.
[vic] This vampire gets +1 strength this combat.
[VIC] As above, and this vampire can prevent 1 damage each round.
Artist: Craig Maher
Player A has the impulse and plays OtH sup. Player B does not have the impulse and could prevent the damage by OtH only with combat cards plainly reading "prevent x damage" (since it is not a strike).
National Coordinator Germany
nc [dot] germany [at] magenta [dot] de
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10 Sep 2019 18:07 #96905
by Mewcat
Replied by Mewcat on topic Outside the hourglass
Nah, it should just follow standard combat demage resolution, right?
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10 Sep 2019 18:20 #96906
by Kushiel
Yes, you can use any damage prevention effects that don't specify that they're only usable against strikes.
www.vekn.net/forum/rules-questions/58505-damage-prevention-outside-of-damage-resolution-phase
Replied by Kushiel on topic Outside the hourglass
The question that was raised in the Spanish WhatsApp group is this:
Can the damage from Outside the Hourglass (played first by the acting vampire) be prevented by superior Horrid Form (played afterward)?
Yes, you can use any damage prevention effects that don't specify that they're only usable against strikes.
www.vekn.net/forum/rules-questions/58505-damage-prevention-outside-of-damage-resolution-phase
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10 Sep 2019 19:17 #96907
by kschaefer
You may play non-damage prevention cards that are legally playable during the damage prevention window. For instance, Aura Reading to cycle for prevent. Given that the players are still in the pre-range, when the damage prevention window opens, you can play pre-range effects in response. See also the many confusing threads about Alpha Glint vs. OotH.
So, Horrid Form is a valid play, and the prevention that Horrid Form provides can be used to prevent the damage the OotH inflicts, see the link Kushiel provided.
Replied by kschaefer on topic Outside the hourglass
This is a correct understanding of the impulse moving from A to B, but an incorrect understanding of the damage prevention window.If I (finally) understood the whole thing with "impulse" and "before range is determined" effects, then the answer is no.
Player A has the impulse and plays OtH sup. Player B does not have the impulse and could prevent the damage by OtH only with combat cards plainly reading "prevent x damage" (since it is not a strike).
You may play non-damage prevention cards that are legally playable during the damage prevention window. For instance, Aura Reading to cycle for prevent. Given that the players are still in the pre-range, when the damage prevention window opens, you can play pre-range effects in response. See also the many confusing threads about Alpha Glint vs. OotH.
So, Horrid Form is a valid play, and the prevention that Horrid Form provides can be used to prevent the damage the OotH inflicts, see the link Kushiel provided.
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