Vidal Jarbeaux ability
27 Sep 2019 21:25 #97170
by islandofyiaros
Vidal Jarbeaux ability was created by islandofyiaros
Some abilities that Vidal Jarbeaux can use are also part of another one or require another one. For example, you can't be a Prince without being Camarilla; you can't be a Seraph without being Black Hand.
The question is: Can he play a card requiring Sabbat, then later play a card requiring a Cardinal--or does playing a Cardinal card imply he's using his "play a Sabbat card once per game" as well?
Thanks in advance.
The question is: Can he play a card requiring Sabbat, then later play a card requiring a Cardinal--or does playing a Cardinal card imply he's using his "play a Sabbat card once per game" as well?
Thanks in advance.
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27 Sep 2019 21:57 #97171
by jamesatzephyr
True.
Untrue. "Black Hand" and "Seraph" are just meaningless card text. Nothing in the rules does anything to them. The Black Hand set introduced no new rules. [LSJ 20030711]
It depends on card text.
If a card says: "Requires a {title}" then Vidal sees that as him meeting the title for the purposes of his special - the fact that the sect comes along with it isn't relevant for his special. If a card said "Requires a {sect} and a {title}" or similar (e.g. several cards say "Requires a titled Sabbat vampire"), then the explicit requirement would be noticed by his special.
[LSJ 20081124]
Replied by jamesatzephyr on topic Vidal Jarbeaux ability
you can't be a Prince without being Camarilla;
True.
you can't be a Seraph without being Black Hand.
Untrue. "Black Hand" and "Seraph" are just meaningless card text. Nothing in the rules does anything to them. The Black Hand set introduced no new rules. [LSJ 20030711]
Can he play a card requiring Sabbat, then later play a card requiring a Cardinal--or does playing a Cardinal card imply he's using his "play a Sabbat card once per game" as well?
It depends on card text.
If a card says: "Requires a {title}" then Vidal sees that as him meeting the title for the purposes of his special - the fact that the sect comes along with it isn't relevant for his special. If a card said "Requires a {sect} and a {title}" or similar (e.g. several cards say "Requires a titled Sabbat vampire"), then the explicit requirement would be noticed by his special.
[LSJ 20081124]
>>> 1/ If Vidal uses his cardtext to play a card that requires a Baron,
>>> would that count against the Anarch trait also ?
>> Not for his special.
> The card "sees" him as an Anarch Baron, but he did not met the Anarch
> requirement. This is kinda strange to me.
"Requires a Baron". He met that requirement.
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10 Jul 2020 05:54 #100331
by gatocion
VEKN#4200008
Replied by gatocion on topic Vidal Jarbeaux ability
Hi!
Another question regarding Vidal's hability.
If he plays an Ankara Citadel and it gets DI, is it still able to fake Tremere?
Thanks!
Name: Vidal Jarbeaux
Cardtype: Vampire
Clan: Toreador
Group: 5
Capacity: 8
Discipline: aus cel obf pot PRE
Camarilla: Vidal can meet the clan, sect, or non-infernal vampire trait (e.g., {Black Hand}) requirement to play any card. He can meet a given requirement only once each game. +1 bleed.
Artist: Mike Gaydos
Name: Direct Intervention
Cardtype: Master
Cost: 1 pool
Master: out-of-turn.
Cancel a minion card as it is played. No cost is paid. (If it was an action card, the acting minion doesn't lock. If it was a strike card, the minion chooses another strike.)
Artist: Harold Arthur McNeill
Name: The Ankara Citadel, Turkey
Cardtype: Equipment
Clan: Tremere
Cost: 2 blood
While in play, this equipment card represents a location and does not count as equipment. Unique.
Non-action modifier cards costing blood cost this vampire half as much blood to play, rounded down (multiplication and division are handled first, followed by addition and subtraction).
Artist: Greg Simanson; Brian LeBlanc
Another question regarding Vidal's hability.
If he plays an Ankara Citadel and it gets DI, is it still able to fake Tremere?
Thanks!
Name: Vidal Jarbeaux
Cardtype: Vampire
Clan: Toreador
Group: 5
Capacity: 8
Discipline: aus cel obf pot PRE
Camarilla: Vidal can meet the clan, sect, or non-infernal vampire trait (e.g., {Black Hand}) requirement to play any card. He can meet a given requirement only once each game. +1 bleed.
Artist: Mike Gaydos
Name: Direct Intervention
Cardtype: Master
Cost: 1 pool
Master: out-of-turn.
Cancel a minion card as it is played. No cost is paid. (If it was an action card, the acting minion doesn't lock. If it was a strike card, the minion chooses another strike.)
Artist: Harold Arthur McNeill
Name: The Ankara Citadel, Turkey
Cardtype: Equipment
Clan: Tremere
Cost: 2 blood
While in play, this equipment card represents a location and does not count as equipment. Unique.
Non-action modifier cards costing blood cost this vampire half as much blood to play, rounded down (multiplication and division are handled first, followed by addition and subtraction).
Artist: Greg Simanson; Brian LeBlanc
VEKN#4200008
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10 Jul 2020 09:05 #100333
by Ankha
Ankara Citadel was played, even if it was cancelled as played, which means that Vidal has used his ability (otherwise the card couldn't have been played).
(This is different from cost reduction vs DI, or locking Enkil Cog vs DI).
Replied by Ankha on topic Vidal Jarbeaux ability
Another question regarding Vidal's hability.
If he plays an Ankara Citadel and it gets DI, is it still able to fake Tremere?
Ankara Citadel was played, even if it was cancelled as played, which means that Vidal has used his ability (otherwise the card couldn't have been played).
(This is different from cost reduction vs DI, or locking Enkil Cog vs DI).
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