file Card Rulings: Wave of Lethargy

07 Apr 2020 11:08 - 07 Apr 2020 11:09 #99519 by lip
The "Cards Rulings" section indicate, for Wave of Lethargy:

Only the cost of playing the card is increased - if the card provides multiple maneuvers and presses, it is only increased by one. Maneuvers from other sources (in play) do not cost extra. [LSJ 20011023].

It has been ruled so multiple times (e.g. [LSJ 20060725] ).

However, the card text seems to have changed since (it used to read "Maneuvers and presses cost the opposing vampire an additional blood to play" before 2007) :

Wave of Lethargy
[Combat][1B]
[qui] Only usable before range is determined. Maneuvers and presses cost the opposing vampire an additional blood this round. A vampire may play only one Wave of Lethargy each round of combat.
[QUI] As above, and strike cards cost the opposing vampire an additional blood this round.


Does the ruling still stand ? If not, is there a more recent ruling or an official card text change list ?
Last edit: 07 Apr 2020 11:09 by lip.

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07 Apr 2020 23:28 #99530 by kschaefer
It appears that the ruling is no longer appropriate since "to play" was removed from the text on the official list around the time of Lords of the Night. As it reads now, maneuvering with a .44 would cost 1 blood.

With DTC physical printing down and archive.org not having a snapshot after the Assamite/Quietus cards were added, it's hard to know what text the current cards have. :(

It would be good to get Ankha to weigh in here and possibly update the rulings page.
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08 Apr 2020 06:34 #99531 by Ankha
Yes, the card text was changed a long time ago by LSJ and is the same as today:

Name: Wave of Lethargy
Cardtype: Combat
Cost: 1 blood
Discipline: Quietus
[qui] Only usable before range is determined. Maneuvers and presses cost the opposing vampire an additional blood this round. A vampire may play only one Wave of Lethargy each round of combat.
[QUI] As above, and strike cards cost the opposing vampire an additional blood this round.

I'll remove the old ruling.

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