Setting range and impulse

1. Vampire A acts, vampire B who has sniper rifle, blocks. In prerange Vampire A plays selective silence and sets the range close, because he is acting and thus gets the first impulse. Vampire B cannot set the range with sniper rifle because range is already set.

In other words, acting player plays their cards and effects first, then defending player, then all others in clockwise fashion. If acting player sets the range, defending player can't.

Correct?

2. Vampire A rushes Cailean. Vampire A plays selective silence and sets the range close, because he is acting and thus gets the first impulse. Cailean cannot set the range with his ability because range is already set.

Caileans ability is similar to any other ability that sets the range. It needs impulse to be used.

Correct?

ps. Getting this ruling out there so we can add it to the krcg bot etc.

Name: Selective Silence
[KMW:C, LotN:PA4, POD:DTC]
Cardtype: Combat
Discipline: Quietus
Only usable during the first round of combat.
[qui] Maneuver.
[QUI] Only usable before range is determined. Burn 1 blood to set the range for this round.

Name: Sniper Rifle
[FN:R2, LoB:PO, KoT:U/PT3]
Cardtype: Equipment
Cost: 2 pool
Weapon, gun.
2R damage each strike. Only usable at long range. If the bearer blocks an action, he or she may, before range is determined, set the range for the first round of the resulting combat to long; if he or she does so, skip the determine range step that round, and the bearer's initial strike that round must be with this weapon.

Name: Cailean
[Sabbat:V, SW:U, BH:PN]
Cardtype: Vampire
Clan: Nosferatu antitribu
Group: 2
Capacity: 10
Discipline: dom ANI OBF POT PRE
Sabbat Archbishop of Detroit: Each round of combat, before range is determined, Cailean can set the range for that round. If he does so, skip the Determine Range step for that round.

Bloodartist wrote:

1. Vampire A acts, vampire B who has sniper rifle, blocks. In prerange Vampire A plays selective silence and sets the range close, because he is acting and thus gets the first impulse. Vampire B cannot set the range with sniper rifle because range is already set.

In other words, acting player plays their cards and effects first, then defending player, then all others in clockwise fashion. If acting player sets the range, defending player can't.

Correct?

Correct, whoever plays a "set the range .." effect first (following the normal priority of who has the impulse) decides what the range will be and no further range setting effects nor maneuvers can be played after that. [RTR 19970630] see under "CARD RULINGS #6)"

Bloodartist wrote:

2. Vampire A rushes Cailean. Vampire A plays selective silence and sets the range close, because he is acting and thus gets the first impulse. Cailean cannot set the range with his ability because range is already set.

Caileans ability is similar to any other ability that sets the range. It needs impulse to be used.

Correct?

Correct, see above ruling.


Would be a good additional note in the rulebook to the "1. Before Range" section saying that only one "set the range" effect can be in effect for a combat and cannot be trumped by another "set the range" card/effect and that when the "set the range" is in effect the "2. Determine Range" step is skipped and no maneuvers can be played.