 Psyche vs Ashes to Ashes
				Psyche vs Ashes to Ashes		
	
	
			
	
						17 Nov 2021 18:23		 -  17 Nov 2021 23:41		#103913
		by OliverMasterPhase
	
	
		
			
	
	
			 		
													
		
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				TITTLE MUST BE: PSYCHE VS ASHES TO ASHES
Quick question: does psyche prevent an opposing vampire from going to torpor using Ashes to Ashes?
Spanish: Psyche evita que un vampiro oponente se vaya a torpor al usar Ashes to Ashes?
Thanks!
					Quick question: does psyche prevent an opposing vampire from going to torpor using Ashes to Ashes?
Spanish: Psyche evita que un vampiro oponente se vaya a torpor al usar Ashes to Ashes?
Thanks!
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						17 Nov 2021 21:05		 -  18 Nov 2021 04:03		#103915
		by inm8
	
	
		
			
	
	
			 		
													
		
	
				Replied by inm8 on topic Psyche vs Dust to Dust			
			
				Can you please provide more details to your question, I fail to understand what exactly you want to know. Psyche! can only be played if both combatants are still ready i.e. no one can be going to torpor because of wounds at least for it to be playable.
	
		
			
		
		
			
				
Cardtype: Combat
Discipline: Celerity
 Press.
 Press.
 Only usable at the end of a round when both combatants are still ready and combat is about to end. After this round, begin another combat with the opposing minion.
 Only usable at the end of a round when both combatants are still ready and combat is about to end. After this round, begin another combat with the opposing minion.
			
		
	
Dust to Dust
	
		
			
		
		
			
				
Cardtype: Combat
Discipline: Thanatosis/Fortitude
 Only usable by a vampire being burned; he or she is sent into torpor instead.
 Only usable by a vampire being burned; he or she is sent into torpor instead.
 Prevent all damage. This vampire unlocks and goes to torpor (ending combat).
 Prevent all damage. This vampire unlocks and goes to torpor (ending combat).
 As
 As  above, and this vampire gains 2 blood from the blood bank.
 above, and this vampire gains 2 blood from the blood bank.
			
		
	
			
					
			Psyche!		
		Cardtype: Combat
Discipline: Celerity
 Press.
 Press. Only usable at the end of a round when both combatants are still ready and combat is about to end. After this round, begin another combat with the opposing minion.
 Only usable at the end of a round when both combatants are still ready and combat is about to end. After this round, begin another combat with the opposing minion.
			Ashes to Ashes		
		Cardtype: Combat
Discipline: Thanatosis/Fortitude
 Only usable by a vampire being burned; he or she is sent into torpor instead.
 Only usable by a vampire being burned; he or she is sent into torpor instead. Prevent all damage. This vampire unlocks and goes to torpor (ending combat).
 Prevent all damage. This vampire unlocks and goes to torpor (ending combat). As
 As  above, and this vampire gains 2 blood from the blood bank.
 above, and this vampire gains 2 blood from the blood bank.
		Last edit: 18 Nov 2021 04:03  by inm8.			
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						17 Nov 2021 23:35		 -  17 Nov 2021 23:40		#103917
		by OliverMasterPhase
	
	
		
			
	
	
			 		
													
		
				Replied by OliverMasterPhase on topic Psyche vs Dust to Dust			
			
				Sure. My mistake I mean: Ashes to Ashes.
I.E: In combat against a Samedi. They play Ashes to Ashes (untaps and goes to torpor). Can I (or the same Samedi) play a Psyche! to restart a combat? preventing the Samedi to go to torpor.
Similar to what happen with Rötschreck and then a Psyche! prevents the acting vampire from going to torpor.
If not, I really would like to understand the main difference between Ashes to Ashes Scenario vs Rötschreck scenario,
Thanks!
					I.E: In combat against a Samedi. They play Ashes to Ashes (untaps and goes to torpor). Can I (or the same Samedi) play a Psyche! to restart a combat? preventing the Samedi to go to torpor.
Similar to what happen with Rötschreck and then a Psyche! prevents the acting vampire from going to torpor.
If not, I really would like to understand the main difference between Ashes to Ashes Scenario vs Rötschreck scenario,
Thanks!
		Last edit: 17 Nov 2021 23:40  by OliverMasterPhase.			
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						17 Nov 2021 23:47				#103918
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				Replied by OliverMasterPhase on topic Psyche vs Ashes to Ashes			
			
				CEL Is played during combat, when combat is about to end. It must be played after the presses are handled and can be played if the round ends prematurely. [RTR 20030519][PIB 20111202]			
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						18 Nov 2021 07:24				#103921
		by Ankha
	
	
		
			
	
			
			 		
													
		
	
				Replied by Ankha on topic Psyche vs Ashes to Ashes			
			
				Please quote the cards from the 
	official cardtexts
Name: Ashes to Ashes
[BL:R2, LoB:R]
Cardtype: Combat
Discipline: Thanatosis/Fortitude
[for] Only usable by a vampire being burned; he or she is sent into torpor instead.
[thn] Prevent all damage. This vampire unlocks and goes to torpor (ending combat).
[THN] As [thn] above, and this vampire gains 2 blood from the blood bank.
Name: Psyche!
[Jyhad:U, VTES:U, FN:PA2, CE:U/PB, KMW:PAl2, Third:U, KoT:U/PB3/PT3]
Cardtype: Combat
Discipline: Celerity
[cel] Press.
[CEL] Only usable at the end of a round when both combatants are still ready and combat is about to end. After this round, begin another combat with the opposing minion.
Ashes to Ashes sends the vampire to torpor, which in turn ends combat.
Psyche! cannot be played to prevent the vampire from going to torpor and requires the two vampires to be ready at the end of the combat, which is not the case here.
							
					Name: Ashes to Ashes
[BL:R2, LoB:R]
Cardtype: Combat
Discipline: Thanatosis/Fortitude
[for] Only usable by a vampire being burned; he or she is sent into torpor instead.
[thn] Prevent all damage. This vampire unlocks and goes to torpor (ending combat).
[THN] As [thn] above, and this vampire gains 2 blood from the blood bank.
Name: Psyche!
[Jyhad:U, VTES:U, FN:PA2, CE:U/PB, KMW:PAl2, Third:U, KoT:U/PB3/PT3]
Cardtype: Combat
Discipline: Celerity
[cel] Press.
[CEL] Only usable at the end of a round when both combatants are still ready and combat is about to end. After this round, begin another combat with the opposing minion.
Ashes to Ashes sends the vampire to torpor, which in turn ends combat.
Psyche! cannot be played to prevent the vampire from going to torpor and requires the two vampires to be ready at the end of the combat, which is not the case here.
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