Heavens Gate New Wording
29 Apr 2022 15:16 - 29 Apr 2022 15:19 #105112
by Ankha
Did you mean "if"? In that case, the question is moot anyway.
Card text:
Name: Heaven's Gate
[LoB:C, POD:DTC]
Cardtype: Combat
Cost: 1 blood
Discipline: Obeah/Necromancy
Only usable by a ready unlocked vampire not involved in the combat.
[nec] Prevent 1 damage to an ally in combat.
[obe] Only usable if an ally would be burned in combat. Instead, add 1 life to that ally if they have no life, and they cannot enter (or be involved in) combat, perform actions, or block this turn; end combat.
[OBE] As [obe] above, but add 2 life if they have no life, not to exceed their starting life.
Replied by Ankha on topic Heavens Gate New Wording
Correct: you are not allowed to play Psyche! because you can't enter combat with the ally anymore.Heavens Gate has had a fairly significant re write at some stage which leaves me confused as to its intent.
The obeah version used to send the ally to the uncontrolled region where it would come back under your control at the end of the influence phase. Now it doesn’t, the ally is instead ready but unable to enter (or be involved in) combat, block or act.
It is the ‘cannot be involved in combat’ rule that I feel is not significantly clear. Is this to mean the ally cannot be entered into combat with by other minors for this phase and the opposing minion would not be allowed to play psyche for example?
Correct: one couldn't play Psyche! against a vampire going to torpor for instance.This I feel like is the intent of the card as it puts e minion at the same kind of state they used to be when they were not actually ready, you cannot psyche an unready minion nor can you enter combat with them.
It does state that you can't enter combat with them.However it doesn’t state someone can’t enter combat with them, could they take that action and the combat would immediately end? Could a psyche be played?
Did you mean "if"? In that case, the question is moot anyway.
One thing is certain: you can't attempt to do things that are not allowed, such as trying to enter combat with a minion you cannot enter combat with.Could these cards be played and the combat would end instantly as the ally is not allowed to be involved in the combat or is the opposing vampire just not allowed to play them?
Card text:
Name: Heaven's Gate
[LoB:C, POD:DTC]
Cardtype: Combat
Cost: 1 blood
Discipline: Obeah/Necromancy
Only usable by a ready unlocked vampire not involved in the combat.
[nec] Prevent 1 damage to an ally in combat.
[obe] Only usable if an ally would be burned in combat. Instead, add 1 life to that ally if they have no life, and they cannot enter (or be involved in) combat, perform actions, or block this turn; end combat.
[OBE] As [obe] above, but add 2 life if they have no life, not to exceed their starting life.
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