file Retainer changing employer

28 Jul 2022 15:55 #105829 by nergalmcl
Question 1
Vamp 1 with animalism superior has an Raven Spy.
Vamp 2 also with ani superior steal this Raven Spy with Far Mastery.

Vamp 2 get the Raven Spy (abilities) in the basic or superior?

Question 2
Vamp has ani basic, successful employ an Raven Spy and next turn he learn animalism superior the Raven Spy abilities goes to superior or stays at basic?


Name: Raven Spy
Cardtype: Retainer
Cost: 1 blood
Discipline: Animalism
Animal with 1 life.
[ani] The employer gets +1 intercept.
[ANI] As above, but Raven Spy has 2 life.
Artist: Dan Frazier; Jeff Holt

Name: Far Mastery
Cardtype: Action
Cost: 1 blood
Discipline: Dominate
+1 stealth action.
[dom] (D) The acting vampire takes control of a retainer controlled by another vampire.
[DOM] (D) Take control of an ally controlled by another Methuselah.
Artist: Dan Smith

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28 Jul 2022 16:26 #105830 by inm8
Replied by inm8 on topic Retainer changing employer

Question 1
Vamp 1 with animalism superior has an Raven Spy.
Vamp 2 also with ani superior steal this Raven Spy with Far Mastery.

Vamp 2 get the Raven Spy (abilities) in the basic or superior?


The retainer is overtaken in whatever state it is at the time of the overtake i.e. if it was played at superior and got into play with 2 life instead of 1, later it looses1 life and then the overtake happens results in the new controller getting a superior version Raven with 1 life.

Question 2
Vamp has ani basic, successful employ an Raven Spy and next turn he learn animalism superior the Raven Spy abilities goes to superior or stays at basic?


No, the discipline level is only relevant when the recruitment action is announced and happens, the controller gaining additional disciplines or discipline levels doesn’t affect retainers already played and in-play.
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