file Khazar's Diary, Pressing Flesh and discarded ally cards

10 Aug 2022 09:59 - 13 Aug 2022 08:44 #105925 by Rémi
Dear all,

Let see the situation:
[EDIT after Inm8 good point]- My Kazar Diary has been activated [EDIT after Inm8 comment] and, I have discarded an ally several turns ago.
- My Giovanni's vampire create a wraith from th Khazar's Diary with that discarded ally.
- The ally bleed, the action is blocked and the wraith is burnt during the resulting combat.
- Can a vampire of mine play Pressing Flesh on that ally card since it's just been burned from play while it represented a wraith?

Card Texts:
Name: Khazar's Diary (Endless Night)
Cardtype: Action
Giovanni get superior Necromancy [NEC] and can put a minion from any ash heap in play as a +1 stealth action to represent a wraith ally with 2 life, 0 strength, 1 bleed and +1 stealth.

Name: Pressing Flesh
Cardtype: Action
[thn] Move an ally in any ash heap who was burned from play to your ready region with this card and life equal to its starting life. This ally is a zombie instead of what it used to be, gets -1 bleed, cannot gain life, and can play cards requiring basic Fortitude [for] as a vampire.

Thanks in advance,
Rémi.

I am Rémi Cavaillé (), Barcelona (SPAIN). I was the Prince of Lyon (France) a long time ago around 2003

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Last edit: 13 Aug 2022 08:44 by Rémi.

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10 Aug 2022 14:03 #105927 by kschaefer
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11 Aug 2022 06:50 #105938 by inm8
Please put the complete card text of cards in the posts, thanks.
Not relevant here but images with cards should be avoided as they aren´t guaranteed to be around in the future.


Khazar's Diary (Endless Night)
Cardtype: Action
Clan: Giovanni
+1 stealth action.
Put the Diary in play, or add 1 counter to one in play. After a unique minion in play is burned, add 1 counter. While this card has 7 or more counters, Giovanni get superior Necromancy :NEC: and can put a minion from any ash heap in play as a +1 stealth action to represent a wraith ally with 2 life, 0 strength, 1 bleed and +1 stealth.

Pressing Flesh
Cardtype: Action
Discipline: Thanatosis
+1 stealth action.
:thn: Move an ally in any ash heap who was burned from play to your ready region with this card and life equal to its starting life. This ally is a zombie instead of what it used to be, gets -1 bleed, cannot gain life, and can play cards requiring basic Fortitude [for] as a vampire.
:THN: As above, but with 1 additional life.

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12 Aug 2022 07:44 - 12 Aug 2022 07:46 #105948 by Rémi
Hello,

I have put the relevant parts: title, card type and relevant text lines.
It is the best way to avoid missunderstanding the real point of the rule question as it has occured in the past.

Regards,
Rémi.

I am Rémi Cavaillé (), Barcelona (SPAIN). I was the Prince of Lyon (France) a long time ago around 2003

Enjoy Vampire: Rivals games and many other gaming activities in Barcelona (Spain) with Association Khan Jugar:
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Last edit: 12 Aug 2022 07:46 by Rémi.

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12 Aug 2022 08:57 #105949 by inm8
I´m ok to agree that we disagree...as I don't know all cards by heart I was unsure of what was being referred to when your written scenario was talking about 7+ tokens and how it was relevant. Anyways you are your own master and do as you wish.
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13 Aug 2022 08:47 #105952 by Rémi
Hi,

I was unsure of what was being referred to when your written scenario was talking about 7+ tokens

Now I understand, you are right, my bad.
I'have edited the original post then. Do not hesitate to put more details on your comment when something hurt your eyes then.

Regards,
Rémi.

I am Rémi Cavaillé (), Barcelona (SPAIN). I was the Prince of Lyon (France) a long time ago around 2003

Enjoy Vampire: Rivals games and many other gaming activities in Barcelona (Spain) with Association Khan Jugar:
sites.google.com/view/khanjugar/

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