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21 Oct 2022 08:48 #106627 by Malachy
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I would like to know if a vampire with Patagia not involved in combat can burn a blood to gain Flight?

My guess is it cannot, but I'd appreciate an explanation as well :)

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Name: Patagia: Flaps Allowing Limited Flight
[Jyhad:R, VTES:R, CE:R, HttB:PSam]
Cardtype: Action
Clan: Nosferatu
Cost: 1 blood
+1 stealth action.
Put this card on the acting Nosferatu. This vampire gets an optional maneuver each combat. Once each combat, this vampire may burn 1 blood to gain flight [FLIGHT] for the remainder of the round. A vampire may have only 1 Patagia card.
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21 Oct 2022 09:48 #106628 by Ankha
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Greets!

I would like to know if a vampire with Patagia not involved in combat can burn a blood to gain Flight?

My guess is it cannot, but I'd appreciate an explanation as well :)

Hugs!

Name: Patagia: Flaps Allowing Limited Flight
[Jyhad:R, VTES:R, CE:R, HttB:PSam]
Cardtype: Action
Clan: Nosferatu
Cost: 1 blood
+1 stealth action.
Put this card on the acting Nosferatu. This vampire gets an optional maneuver each combat. Once each combat, this vampire may burn 1 blood to gain flight [FLIGHT] for the remainder of the round. A vampire may have only 1 Patagia card.
Artist: Anson Maddocks; Andrew Trabbold


I'm not sure what you want to do with it, but the answer is no: the vampire must be involved in combat by default.

Fatima al-Faqadi or White Lily can't equip with weapons in combat they are not involved in for instance.

Name: Fatima al-Faqadi
[Promo-20010428, FN:PA, POD:DTC]
Cardtype: Vampire
Clan: Banu Haqim
Group: 2
Capacity: 8
Discipline: aus for CEL OBF QUI
Independent: Once each combat, before range is determined, Fatima can equip with a weapon from your hand (requirements and cost apply as normal). Blood cursed.
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21 Oct 2022 15:23 #106630 by Malachy
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I'm not sure what you want to do with it, but the answer is no: the vampire must be involved in combat by default.


Thanks Ankha, it was one of my player's idea to abuse Winged Second! :)
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21 Oct 2022 16:20 #106631 by Ankha
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I'm not sure what you want to do with it, but the answer is no: the vampire must be involved in combat by default.


Thanks Ankha, it was one of my player's idea to abuse Winged Second! :)

Winged Second is a reaction card anyway, not usable in combat...
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21 Oct 2022 16:30 - 21 Oct 2022 16:30 #106632 by inm8
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An incorrect interpretation of "Once each combat do Y to X" which is quite easily made, poor choice of wording that doesn´t explicitly nor implicitly reveal that it is limited to participants of a combat.

Should be added to the wording templates in the rulebook.
Last edit: 21 Oct 2022 16:30 by inm8.
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22 Oct 2022 08:50 #106638 by Lönkka
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I'm not sure what you want to do with it, but the answer is no: the vampire must be involved in combat by default.


Thanks Ankha, it was one of my player's idea to abuse Winged Second! :)

Winged Second is a reaction card anyway, not usable in combat...


Eh? Doesn't Winged Second have an effect that is used in combat?

Granted it is ACTIVATED (just) before the combat ("Only usable when another minion you control enters combat with a minion without flight") but Patagia needs to be activated DURING combat (right?) so Patagia couldn't grant Flight before the combat starts...
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