file Referendum and sequencing/impulse

18 Feb 2023 11:53 - 19 Feb 2023 09:34 #107417 by inm8
From a discussion in the discord, the below question came up;

During a referendum, which of the below are subject to and relevant for sequencing/impulse and would move the impulse back to the acting vampire?
a) burning the edge for a vote
b) burning/discarding a political action card for a vote
c) using an effect from a card in play
d) playing a card for its effect
e) casting votes gained from one´s vampires (normally from their title)
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26 Feb 2023 19:20 #107490 by inm8
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27 Feb 2023 07:56 - 27 Feb 2023 07:57 #107493 by Ankha

From a discussion in the discord, the below question came up;

During a referendum, which of the below are subject to and relevant for sequencing/impulse and would move the impulse back to the acting vampire?
a) burning the edge for a vote
b) burning/discarding a political action card for a vote
c) using an effect from a card in play
d) playing a card for its effect
e) casting votes gained from one´s vampires (normally from their title)


a) to d) use the impulse
e) does not, rulebook: "all Methuselahs may now cast any votes and ballots they have at this time, in any order."

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Last edit: 27 Feb 2023 07:57 by Ankha.
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28 Feb 2023 19:23 #107503 by beslin igor
what happen if acting Methuselah declare his votes,and then all another abstain(nobody vote anything),can then acting Methuselahs play any cards as Awe to gain additional votes,or him dont get impulse for this?
I must say many times casting votes loks like as mess in table,maybe need to exist some order as clockwise or something,some people wait and dont want to say anything because wait to another people vote before.

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01 Mar 2023 09:07 #107506 by Ankha

what happen if acting Methuselah declare his votes,and then all another abstain(nobody vote anything),can then acting Methuselahs play any cards as Awe to gain additional votes,or him dont get impulse for this?

Yes, the Methuselah can play Awe.

I must say many times casting votes loks like as mess in table,maybe need to exist some order as clockwise or something,some people wait and dont want to say anything because wait to another people vote before.

Casting votes can be done in any order. It may look like a mess, but it isn't.

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01 Mar 2023 09:58 #107508 by inm8
I think the point is more that the impulse/sequencing rule isn't really being actively applied during referendums (opposite to e.g. combat) when the players actually must wait till they get the impulse before they can do any of a) to d) and as soon as they do the impulse goes back to the active player.

I haven´t come up with a scenario where it would actually matter but that doesn´t mean there isn't one.

a) burning the edge for a vote
b) burning/discarding a political action card for a vote
c) using an effect from a card in play
d) playing a card for its effect
e) casting votes gained from one´s vampires (normally from their title)

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